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SK2751 Dec 5, 2016 5:39 am

New lounge construction in Kastrup
 
This article in Danish (http://www.check-in.dk/emirates-ublu...er-lounge-cph/) mentions in the passing that CPH is building a new lounge in the C finger, in the non-schengen area. I have missed this info before.

This is good news, if it will unload CPH Appartment, which is terribly crowded in the early evenings. It would also be cool, if SK decided to join the lounge (as LO did in WAW, for example, and SK did in AAL, as far as I remember). But no indication of that in the article.

GUWonder Dec 5, 2016 6:41 am


Originally Posted by wazow (Post 27567431)
This article in Danish (http://www.check-in.dk/emirates-ublu...er-lounge-cph/) mentions in the passing that CPH is building a new lounge in the C finger, in the non-schengen area. I have missed this info before.

This is good news, if it will unload CPH Appartment, which is terribly crowded in the early evenings. It would also be cool, if SK decided to join the lounge (as LO did in WAW, for example, and SK did in AAL, as far as I remember). But no indication of that in the article.

This should help a little bit with the crazy CPH passport control lines and planning around them, especially for those of us who use the lounges at CPH.

CPH-Flyer Dec 5, 2016 7:20 am


Originally Posted by wazow (Post 27567431)
This article in Danish (http://www.check-in.dk/emirates-ublu...er-lounge-cph/) mentions in the passing that CPH is building a new lounge in the C finger, in the non-schengen area. I have missed this info before.

This is good news, if it will unload CPH Appartment, which is terribly crowded in the early evenings. It would also be cool, if SK decided to join the lounge (as LO did in WAW, for example, and SK did in AAL, as far as I remember). But no indication of that in the article.

Main difference to AAL is that SK is not getting in to a lounge arrangement where they already have their own. They should IMHO invest in their own existing lounge before adding another.

The main airlines to gain from this would be the ones with only non Schengen departures. I could wonder if TK would be tempted to have the new one as their main lounge. I do hope BA jumps to the lounge when it opens.

FlyingMoose Dec 5, 2016 1:03 pm


Originally Posted by CPH-Flyer (Post 27567690)
They should IMHO invest in their own existing lounge before adding another.

Agreed.


The main airlines to gain from this would be the ones with only non Schengen departures. I could wonder if TK would be tempted to have the new one as their main lounge. I do hope BA jumps to the lounge when it opens.
What CPH needs is a SK lounge at the B-gates so we can finally stop the never-ending stroll back and forth when transferring intra-Europe.

CPH-Flyer Dec 5, 2016 3:21 pm


Originally Posted by FlyingMoose (Post 27568890)

What CPH needs is a SK lounge at the B-gates so we can finally stop the never-ending stroll back and forth when transferring intra-Europe.

Which for SK would probably be a higher need than a non Schengen lounge. But I am not sure the real estate for it is around. Maybe the old BA lounge. Can't remember if that has been utilised.

However coming back to the point of investments in existing SK lounges in CPH... :)

TPJ Dec 5, 2016 11:11 pm


Originally Posted by CPH-Flyer (Post 27569572)
Maybe the old BA lounge. Can't remember if that has been utilised.

It is used as some sort of backoffice.

GUWonder Dec 6, 2016 2:17 am


Originally Posted by TPJ (Post 27571028)
It is used as some sort of backoffice.

And it's not a very big space at that.

When it was used mainly by just Oneworld carrier passengers, it wouldn't be too crowded most times. But it would not have been able to handle SK premium customer lounge spillover even back then.

If the airport weren't so greedy for retail sales related revenue, perhaps they could convert some of that shopping mall space into another lounge or more comfortable seating area.

aulrik Dec 6, 2016 10:32 pm


Originally Posted by CPH-Flyer (Post 27567690)
The main airlines to gain from this would be the ones with only non Schengen departures. I could wonder if TK would be tempted to have the new one as their main lounge. I do hope BA jumps to the lounge when it opens.

My thought too, but the question is if its worth it for TK? As a frequent flyer on the CPH-IST route, I would definitely welcome the possibility of having lounge access after the passport control.

CPH-Flyer Dec 6, 2016 11:24 pm


Originally Posted by aulrik (Post 27576045)
My thought too, but the question is if its worth it for TK? As a frequent flyer on the CPH-IST route, I would definitely welcome the possibility of having lounge access after the passport control.

The challenge for TK would be that they can't stop people from using a *A lounge. So they would probably be charged for two lounge visits for a lot of customers. Of course, should a majority of their lounge eligible Y customers be *G with another Airline, the cost would not hit themselves.

FlyerTalker01565 Dec 8, 2016 2:02 am


Originally Posted by GUWonder (Post 27571461)
And it's not a very big space at that.

When it was used mainly by just Oneworld carrier passengers, it wouldn't be too crowded most times. But it would not have been able to handle SK premium customer lounge spillover even back then.

If the airport weren't so greedy for retail sales related revenue, perhaps they could convert some of that shopping mall space into another lounge or more comfortable seating area.

I don't think it's about morals. I don't think SK's current lounges are gifted from the airport to SK as an offering to the sky gods. I think they do in fact pay for the space. And they could pay for more should they want to. With, you know, money.

CPH-Flyer Dec 8, 2016 2:07 am


Originally Posted by FlyingDanishPenguin (Post 27581635)
I don't think it's about morals. I don't think SK's current lounges are gifted from the airport to SK as an offering to the sky gods. I think they do in fact pay for the space. And they could pay for more should they want to. With, you know, money.

I am sure SK pays for the space that they occupy with lounges. I am also reasonably sure that the rent the airport can get from retail outlets is probably higher than for lounge space. :)

FlyerTalker01565 Dec 8, 2016 2:48 am


Originally Posted by CPH-Flyer (Post 27581652)
I am sure SK pays for the space that they occupy with lounges. I am also reasonably sure that the rent the airport can get from retail outlets is probably higher than for lounge space. :)

So what you're saying is SK could pay more of that money and there'd be more lounge space? Then we agree! :D

CPH-Flyer Dec 8, 2016 4:38 am


Originally Posted by FlyingDanishPenguin (Post 27581738)
So what you're saying is SK could pay more of that money and there'd be more lounge space? Then we agree! :D

In principle yes, in practical terms I doubt there would be a proper return on investment in additional revenue to be gained by the higher rent payments.

FlyerTalker01565 Dec 8, 2016 5:30 am


Originally Posted by CPH-Flyer (Post 27581951)
In principle yes, in practical terms I doubt there would be a proper return on investment in additional revenue to be gained by the higher rent payments.

So ... the market works? :p

CPH-Flyer Dec 8, 2016 5:41 am


Originally Posted by FlyingDanishPenguin (Post 27582049)
So ... the market works? :p

It does, from a certain point of view....


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