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FlyingMoose Jan 30, 2016 4:00 am

It was early AM, not much people there. Especially not upstairs. I can't even begin to think how about it would be at peak hour.

I mostly don't understand where the 2-3 month period came from when the wifi was blazing fast and exactly what you would expect, just for it to go back to being terrible.

SK2751 Jan 30, 2016 7:09 am

Crappy firmware. Probably needs restarting to keep throughput consistent.

FlyingMoose Feb 22, 2016 6:17 am

They must have deployed this nonsense in the ARN lounge as well. The wifi was blazing after the lounge rebuild but is now terribly slow, constantly dropping VPN and just a poor experience.

It makes no sense that they would change something from great to flat out terrible. Had to switch to 4G to get anything useful done.

klmml Feb 26, 2016 8:57 am


Originally Posted by FlyingMoose (Post 26224749)
They must have deployed this nonsense in the ARN lounge as well. The wifi was blazing after the lounge rebuild but is now terribly slow, constantly dropping VPN and just a poor experience.

It makes no sense that they would change something from great to flat out terrible. Had to switch to 4G to get anything useful done.

Same here, I'm in ARN at the moment and I cannot connect to an SSH server running on a weird port number, and a TCP OpenVPN connection just fails. Great. :td:

They do realise this just frustrates people, right? Anyone who wants to abuse the service will know how to do so anyway.

FlyingMoose Feb 27, 2016 2:16 am

The only alternative is the "Free Airport WIFI" at ARN which is really fast but disconnects you after 100MB of data usage. At 10 MB/s that is after 10 seconds. (I'll give you a moment to process the absurdity).

So don't have your smartphone or laptop auto-update apps because 1/3 through the first one you'll be disconnected and end up in an indefinite reconnect/authenticate loop until you turn-off auto updates.

I really do not understand what they are trying to achieve. I used the support option to inquire if they had made a mistake but you get the typical Swedish response of "it is what it is" and nobody cared the service is useless in its current form.

So you're left with Telia Homerun or 4G as a local or a very poor experience as a visitor.

FlyingMoose Mar 1, 2016 1:40 am

Well I think the culprit is obvious, they installed some kind of filters which don't work at all.


You have tried to access a web page which is in violation of the SAS internet usage policy
Apparently SAS doesn't want me to read the news??

The support page leads to some kind of Fortinet appliance. Its 2016 and SAS thinks it is a good idea to start censoring lounge wifi? What kind of mentally challenged people are running their IT department? What a total joke.

fassy Mar 1, 2016 3:10 am


Originally Posted by FlyingMoose (Post 26265290)
The support page leads to some kind of Fortinet appliance. Its 2016 and SAS thinks it is a good idea to start censoring lounge wifi? What kind of mentally challenged people are running their IT department? What a total joke.

What I said before, I guess they are afraid of being sued back into the stone ages by the content mafia because some kid used the lounge network to downloaded the latest Game of Thrones episode or movie screener?

Not sure how Danish laws are regarding public networks and violations by third party users. In Germany at least this fight is going on for years and there fore public WiFi Hotspots are still either very restricted or not even existent...

FlyingMoose Mar 1, 2016 4:28 am

Sweden has public wifi hotspots everywhere, usually without a captive portal, there is also a public airport wifi without any restrictions other than the 100MB/session silliness. I don't think SK can be sued for someone downloading illegal content as long their disclaimer or T&C state you are not allowed/supposed to.

If that was really the motivation I would have expected to have seen such restrictions in US lounges, which I haven't. This smells a lot more like incompetence / stupidity than anything else.

I find it a problem that my (foreign) newspaper gets blocked by a content filter.

fassy Mar 1, 2016 4:53 am

Sweden also has very relaxed content piracy laws and very strict privacy laws.

For the US the disclaimer with T&Cs do not use it for illegal things is good enough, which doesn't mean it is good enough in other countries.

In Germany that was a long time the issue, just saying "you are not allowed" won't be good enough and the Wifi provider has to make sure to either prevent illegal use of the Wifi, e.g. by a content filter OR to enforce personalized logins which can be traced back to the user. Since both was really unpractical development of Wifi hotspots in Germany was stalled for years. After they changed that rule a year or so ago more ond more hotspots came on.

If Denmark has a similar retarded law like Germany had, it would explain things.

Anyway, I won't fight with you... Very likely it is just incompetence and ignorance by some SK IT goon.

FlyingMoose Mar 1, 2016 7:41 am

Strict privacy laws? That's a joke.

You can Google anybody's personal details and get their financial data for a trivial amount of money and effort. There is no way to opt-out of that either unless you're in the equivalent of witness protection.

Sweden has no privacy whatsoever unless you're in a hospital where it is more likely to work against you than in your favour.

My experience today was in the ARN lounge, perhaps that's where the confusion around Denmark came from.

fassy Mar 1, 2016 7:47 am


Originally Posted by FlyingMoose (Post 26266266)
Strict privacy laws? That's a joke.

You can Google anybody's personal details and get their financial data for a trivial amount of money and effort. There is no way to opt-out of that either unless you're in the equivalent of witness protection.

Sweden has no privacy whatsoever unless you're in a hospital where it is more likely to work against you than in your favour.
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Yes, I know of that... it's not very logical but for a content provider it is impossible to get from the IP address to the user by querying the ISP, which is a piece of cake in some other countries. So, although Skatteverket probably tweets your yearly salary in some other areas the privacy protection is not bad. Weird country :D

SK2751 Mar 4, 2016 1:25 pm


Originally Posted by fassy (Post 26265717)
Sweden also has very relaxed content piracy laws and very strict privacy laws.

For the US the disclaimer with T&Cs do not use it for illegal things is good enough, which doesn't mean it is good enough in other countries.

In Germany that was a long time the issue, just saying "you are not allowed" won't be good enough and the Wifi provider has to make sure to either prevent illegal use of the Wifi, e.g. by a content filter OR to enforce personalized logins which can be traced back to the user. Since both was really unpractical development of Wifi hotspots in Germany was stalled for years. After they changed that rule a year or so ago more ond more hotspots came on.

If Denmark has a similar retarded law like Germany had, it would explain things.

Anyway, I won't fight with you... Very likely it is just incompetence and ignorance by some SK IT goon.

As far as I know, in DK you need to be able to track down individual users, or you are liable otherwise. We had lots of discussion at my employer (several years ago these discussions led to closing our open wifi). I do not know what are the regulations now, but we still authenticate visitors via sms, which is apparently deemed a sufficient way to identify the user.

fassy Mar 6, 2016 5:09 am


Originally Posted by wazow (Post 26285043)
As far as I know, in DK you need to be able to track down individual users, or you are liable otherwise. We had lots of discussion at my employer (several years ago these discussions led to closing our open wifi). I do not know what are the regulations now, but we still authenticate visitors via sms, which is apparently deemed a sufficient way to identify the user.

So, similar to German ruling and could explain the lock-down of the Wifi. Interesting read about Germany and copyright lawsuits by shared Wifi:

http://www.heise.de/ct/artikel/Ignor...y-3127309.html

I mean the part of the friendly neighbor sharing his Wifi, not about the refugee downloading and sharing content.

Asleep at the Yoke Feb 26, 2017 12:55 am

Appears to be back working, VPN in CPH SAS lounge, that is. Reasonably fast too (60/40 incl VPN).


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