V is youth fare class.

Not anymore. Youth tickets is now booked in low eco, L and T for example. Also no more 100% earning :(

You are right :mad: When was this announced? I double checked from their website. Route cuts. Mileage accrual cuts. KF is really trying to get rid of passengers. :td::td:

With the risk of going too much OT, I have been a lot on KF's ... lately. I've let them know exactly what I think of the lack of point offers, the lack of service on board, the frequent delays, and the fact that they even cut their BOB offerings! I told them that they must be joking, they can't be doing that bad that they can't offer decent BOB as 'it costs them too much'.

I got today a pretty long reply, but boy did it feel like someone who has completely given up! They blamed on tight competition, tighter marketing budgets etc. It felt like they had played all their cards and now they just try to struggle for survival. I got two lounge vouchers... What will I do with them (EBG)?

Well, on today's flight it was the best KF crew in a looong time, and they even bumped an EBP into Premium. So there are still a few crew who are keeping a happy face and realizing that with good service clients will come. But the majority of the crew and HQ seems to have given up.

I can't help but feeling a bit sorry for KF.

No announcement, noticed it in the last days of september when checking out the earning table on SKs' site.

Blue1 ARE struggling, the competition from AY and BE is fierce right now. VR, the state railway company is also a big competitor.

I have however not had a 'bad' crew this year, i've had one or two 'OK' ones, the rest have been great. My 2 premium flights today were both very good. VAA-HEL i was the only one in C together with 5 deadheading crew. HEL-VAA was great aswell. I usually ask for a beer (even though not an official drink on domestic) which they always give with a smile and if they haven't got it they apologise profusely.

I can take care of those vouchers for you :D

I just saved 40euros by not flying V-fare but the supercheap promotional fare intra-Finland. Thank you Captainfire!

In my opinion KF crews have been always outstanding. Polite, professional and service-minded.

That was my experience before as well, but I have had quite many bad crews on the HEL-OSL-HEL routes lately. They're more busy fiddling around in the galleys than greeting passengers when entering the plane, they haven't developed the muscles to smile, and when coming out with the BOB trolley they're too busy gossiping than actually saying "thank you" when paying etc.

Perhaps they're better up front, I sit twice per week in the back.

There used to be a year ago quite often this one blonde woman on this route who was really outstanding. She really seemed to love her job. I haven't seen her for a long time now.

This must be a very unique description of a Scandinavian air crew :D

Yes. I usually only fly intra-Finland with KF. Occasionally to Skandinavia.