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It may seem "fun and cool" now, but unless you have a tireless thirst for tourists and street denizens, I could see the Upper Haight getting old real quick.
(I'm sure some Upper Haight lovers will chime in to defend the neighborhood, but personally, I can't stand it save the occasional trip to Amoeba.) I'm biased having lived on 15th betweeen Church and Dolores for several years, but how 'bout that area (bordered by Market, Dolores, 20th, and Church, give or take a few blocks). From my perspective, the location can't be beat. Plus, we get a few more minutes of afternoon sun than those Lower Haight folks. :p |
Originally Posted by snorkmaster
(Post 7795595)
It may seem "fun and cool" now, but unless you have a tireless thirst for tourists and street denizens, I could see the Upper Haight getting old real quick.
(I'm sure some Upper Haight lovers will chime in to defend the neighborhood, but personally, I can't stand it save the occasional trip to Amoeba.) |
Hmm, maybe it is improving. I'll admit that I can't speak too authoritatively, as I tended to stay in the Lower Haight/Upper Market/Castro/Mission/Noe zone...
Originally Posted by dhuey
(Post 7795627)
That was my experience for one year at Waller & Cole. I was recently chatting with a younger gal I met who lives there now. She said it's much more livable there now, and I believe her. I had some crack dealing going on outside my apartment back in 1990-91.
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Originally Posted by snorkmaster
(Post 7795595)
It may seem "fun and cool" now, but unless you have a tireless thirst for tourists and street denizens, I could see the Upper Haight getting old real quick.
(I'm sure some Upper Haight lovers will chime in to defend the neighborhood, but personally, I can't stand it save the occasional trip to Amoeba.) I'm biased having lived on 15th betweeen Church and Dolores for several years, but how 'bout that area (bordered by Market, Dolores, 20th, and Church, give or take a few blocks). From my perspective, the location can't be beat. Plus, we get a few more minutes of afternoon sun than those Lower Haight folks. :p 15th between Church and Dolores is fantastic. And walkable (or stumbleable) from Zeitgeist! ^ |
Originally Posted by dhuey
(Post 7795627)
I had some crack dealing going on outside my apartment back in 1990-91.
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Originally Posted by Eastbay1K
(Post 7798117)
Funny how that ended when you moved :p
But seriously, it was pretty scary. The dope/acid dealers were never the most trustworthy bunch, but the crack dealing was very different. It felt like gunfire could erupt at any moment (it did a couple times within a block of my apartment). I don't scare easily in marginal neighborhoods, but I started to get plenty scared. |
Originally Posted by dhuey
(Post 7798154)
What are you suggesting: that I was selling or buying?
But seriously, it was pretty scary. The dope/acid dealers were never the most trustworthy bunch, but the crack dealing was very different. It felt like gunfire could erupt at any moment (it did a couple times within a block of my apartment). I don't scare easily in marginal neighborhoods, but I started to get plenty scared. -W |
Originally Posted by Wingman32
(Post 7798186)
That area appears to be a lot nicer now. What do people think of the area in-between Hayes Valley and Lower Haight? Say around Oak and Webster?
-W |
I liked living in the Mission and the Lower Haight. I can't recommend the Summer afternoon fog bank that is the Sunset.
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Oak and Webster is was an up-and-coming spot just after the freeway came down. It too has gotten pricey since. I'd prefer living a bit farther down the hill towards Octavia.
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Originally Posted by Wingman32
(Post 7769723)
So...I'm actually in San Francisco right now, and I've been checking out neighborhoods etc all weekend. So far my two favourites are: 1) Noe Valley--yes I know...baby carriages, loving families, and all that, but its close to downtown and far enough south to make it less painful to work. 2) Haight Ashbury...really fun and cool area, close to the park, and a pretty good connection to the rest of the city.
Definitely nots: Anything Richmond or Sunset--too far. Marina--too yuppie, I'm leaving the Northeast...don't want to find it in SF again. SOMA is trying too hard to be New York...and San Francisco is not New York. Definitely not worse, but different. Possibles: Mission/Cole Valley/North Beach? Thoughts? Comments? Corrections? Anything I've missed? -W Mission - yes, check it out. Right next to Noe, so if you still like Noe, it is a couple block walk to the Mission, they almost blend together. Cole Valley - right down the street from me (as is upper Haight) - worth checking out, good public trans options, Google shuttle. Since you are practically looking in my neighborhood (Ashbury Heights) - PM me if you have any specific questions, I'm more than happy to help you out. Based on the post I made previously and your recent response, I'm probably inline with what you are thinking. --Doug |
Originally Posted by Wingman32
(Post 7798186)
That area appears to be a lot nicer now. What do people think of the area in-between Hayes Valley and Lower Haight? Say around Oak and Webster?
-W Hayes Valley is indeed a pretty good recommendation, quick to head south, but I'm not sure if there is much nightlife beyond a few bars. I'd still lean towards your Noe/Mission findings. |
Originally Posted by DMSFCA
(Post 7807895)
Good, depending. I lived at Haight and Laguna and loved it, and Hayes Valley at Hayes and Laguna is good too. Where you don't want to be is Haight and Filmore, that area has some really bad things going on at night, I'm not a suburban softie, but that can be a pretty dangerous block or so.
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Especially the alleys that are branching off Filmore to the east can have some "interesting" charcters in them at night.
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Originally Posted by Wingman32
(Post 7769723)
So...I'm actually in San Francisco right now, and I've been checking out neighborhoods etc all weekend. So far my two favourites are: 1) Noe Valley--yes I know...baby carriages, loving families, and all that, but its close to downtown and far enough south to make it less painful to work. 2) Haight Ashbury...really fun and cool area, close to the park, and a pretty good connection to the rest of the city.
Definitely nots: Anything Richmond or Sunset--too far. Marina--too yuppie, I'm leaving the Northeast...don't want to find it in SF again. SOMA is trying too hard to be New York...and San Francisco is not New York. Definitely not worse, but different. Possibles: Mission/Cole Valley/North Beach? Thoughts? Comments? Corrections? Anything I've missed? -W Not sure if you already found a place, but I'll add Glen Park to the list if you like Noe Valley. Close access to the Glen Park BART, J MUNI line and short walk to Noe Valley. Lots of new great restaurants opening too. Good luck on your search! :) |
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