dcmike

6pm on a Friday you will likely be stuck in traffic for a couple of hours. It's rush hour, and even though you're heading into the city so theoretically going against traffic, you're going to hit a lot of congestion once you get to the Center.

However, the one problem with the Ukraina and taking the Aeroexpress is that there really isn't a metro near the hotel. So you're looking at either walking a good distance from Kievskaya metro station or taking a cab from Paveletskaya (where, coming off the Aeroexpress, the drivers will all take 700 rubles from you, even though it should be 200-300). And then you're still in traffic.

Given both these things, it might just be easier to take the taxi from DME and sacrifice a small goat to the traffic gods before heading out.

mcg1000

Is it really that difficult to get from Kievskaya metro to the Radisson?

dcmike

Do you read Russian or have you been there before?

mcg1000

I speak excellent Russian, although haven't been to Moscow since the nineties and have never been to the Hotel Ukraina.

azepine00

Immigration etc with 6 pm arrival means reaching downtown well after 7 - I doubt traffic, especially on a friday, is gonna be a problem.

dcmike

The hotel is not right by the metro, it's about a 10 minute walk from Kievskaya. If you speak Russian, you should be fine. Here's a map:

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sour...6,0.02532&z=15

shannon94188

Arriving on a Wednesday evening, I assume we'll take the Aeroexpress train to Paveletskiy railway station - and then walk from there to the hotel? We're staying at:

Hotel Ibis Moscow Paveletskaya
Shchipok Str 22 Bld. 1 - 115054 - MOSCOW - RUSSIAN FEDERATION

Is this a reasonable and safe walk from the Paveleskiy station? There will be two of us, never been to Russia before, and I'm not doing well on learning Cyrillic (though I'm trying!)

Thanks!

dcmike

It's a safe neighborhood (although right around train stations there always tend to be some drunks/unsavory characters - once you get away from the station, it's totally fine). I would guestimate it is about 10 minutes by foot. If one of the two of you can pick up cyrillic and you bring a map, you'll be fine.

bcmatt

Its fine around that area overall, and should be a fairly straightforward 10-15 min walk. You could also take a tram, probably better once you've got the lay of the land. It's mappable on Google.