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For those flying, by all means enter your flight details below so we can see if anyone is flying together.

Eating Options and Tips - https://trip101.com/article/penang-food-guide-23-things-that-will-make-your-waistline-grow

Activities and Experiences - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penang_Hill_Railway --- https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Attractions-g298302-Activities-Penang.html

Hotels - https://www.panpacific.com/en/hotels-and-resorts/pr-penang.html ---

27-OCT-18 BA2880 EDI-DOH msm2000uk
28-OCT-18 BA4488 DOH-PEN msm2000uk
30-OCT-18 BA4489 PEN-DOH msm2000uk
31-OCT-18 BA7009 DOH-LHR msm2000uk
31-OCT-18 BA1442 LHR-EDI msm2000uk

10-NOV-18 BA2880 EDI-DOH godsavethepoints
11-NOV-18 BA4488 DOH-PEN godsavethepoints
17-NOV-18 BA4489 PEN-DOH godsavethepoints
18-NOV-18 BA7007 DOH-LHR godsavethepoints
18-NOV-18 BA1446 LHR-EDI godsavethepoints

08-DEC-18 BA2880 EDI-DOH msm2000uk
08-DEC-18 BA2880 EDI-DOH scallywag72
09-DEC-18 BA4488 DOH-PEN msm2000uk
09-DEC-18 BA4488 DOH-PEN scallywag72
09-DEC-18 BA4489 PEN-DOH msm2000uk
09-DEC-18 BA4489 PEN-DOH scallywag72
10-DEC-18 BA7009 DOH-LHR msm2000uk
10-DEC-18 BA7009 DOH-LHR scallywag72
10-DEC-18 BA1440 LHR-EDI msm2000uk
10-DEC-18 BA1440 LHR-EDI scallywag72

11-JAN-19 BA1441 EDI-LHR victairinternational
11-JAN-19 BA7008 LHR-DOH victairinternational
12-JAN-19 BA4488 DOH-PEN victairinternational
13 -JAN-19 BA4489 PEN-DOH victairinternational
14-JAN-19 BA7009 DOH-LHR victairinternational
14-JAN-19 BA1440 LHR-EDI victairinternational

19-JAN-19 BA2880 EDI-DOH Wbeest
20-JAN-19 BA4488 DOH-PEN Wbeest
20-JAN-19 BA1459 EDI-LHR KARFA

24-JAN-19 BA4489 PEN-DOH Wbeest
25-JAN-19 BA2881 DOH-EDI Wbeest

02-FEB-19 BA2880 EDI-DOH S_W_S
03-FEB-19 BA4488 DOH-PEN S_W_S
16-FEB-19 BA4489 PEN-DOH S_W_S
17-FEB-19 BA7009 DOH-LHR S_W_S
17-FEB-19 BA1442 LHR-EDI S_W_S

24-MAR-19 BA8719 EDI-LCY armouredant
25-MAR-19 BA7008 LHR-DOH armouredant
26-MAR-19 BA4488 DOH-PEN armouredant
20-APR-19 BA4489 PEN-DOH armouredant
21-APR-19 BA7009 DOH-LHR armouredant

03-JUN-19 BA1441 EDI-LHR IAANN
03-JUN-19 BA7004 LHR-DOH IAANN
04-JUN-19 BA4488 DOH-PEN IAANN
08-JUN-19 BA4489 PEN-DOH IAANN
09-JUN-19 BA7009 DOH-LHR IAANN
09-JUN-19 BA1438 LHR-EDI IAANN

28-JUN-19 BA7004 LHR-DOH KARFA
29-JUN-19 BA4488 DOH-PEN KARFA
29-JUN-19 BA4489 PEN-DOH KARFA
30-JUN-19 BA7009 DOH-LHR KARFA
06-JUL-19 BA1442 LHR-EDI KARFA

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Aug 28, 2018, 5:44 am

#106

IAN-UK

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Quote:

Originally Posted by KARFA

Very hard to believe this was deliberate. Crazily priced QR flash sales might be a typical QR practice to help fill seats. However, this was a BA fare and I can’t see any reason BA happen to want to run flash sales between MAN-PEN or EDI-PEN.

I'm having difficulty understanding any explanation other than a mistake.

The alternative suggestion being offered appears to be that someone in BA wanted to open up a fare opportunity for known individuals. I'm sure the airline has mechanisms in place for offering generous discounts without manipulating publicly available fares and allowing outsiders to seep into the deal: so this would be down to a rogue manager.

Perhaps I've got the wrong end of the stick. Even so, I think the fat finger scenario would be Occam's preference.

Aug 28, 2018, 7:13 am

#107

nufnuf77

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Filthy Monkey

Happy to have that chat with you in private, but I know for a fact from a contact in Rev Man that this one was a simple mistake.

Could your contact be offered some complimentary LPGS for some new suggested route sales?

Aug 28, 2018, 10:25 am

#108

godsavethepoints

Join Date: Aug 2015

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Filthy Monkey

Happy to have that chat with you in private, but I know for a fact from a contact in Rev Man that this one was a simple mistake.

Not saying it wasn't a mistake. Simply saying that I know the precise moment the mistake was realized by someone in the same department and that the timing was very shrewd in when it was pulled, as opposed to many we've seen, where they take off in the middle of the night and no one can stop the bleeding until it's too late.

Aug 28, 2018, 10:36 am

#109

Filthy Monkey

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nufnuf77

Could your contact be offered some complimentary LPGS for some new suggested route sales?

Send the bottles my way and I'll see what I can do

Aug 28, 2018, 10:53 am

#110

ft101

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Posts: 9,307

Quote:

Originally Posted by godsavethepoints

. . . . but this was a little bit more premeditated than most fares.

Quote:

Originally Posted by godsavethepoints

Not saying it wasn't a mistake.

Which is true?

Aug 28, 2018, 4:12 pm

#111

msm2000uk

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Filthy Monkey

Send the bottles my way and I'll see what I can do

In your line of work (assuming you still work for the same company as a fellow FTer), I'd have thought alcohol bottles would be the last thing you'd need!

M

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Aug 28, 2018, 5:16 pm

#112

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Quote:

Originally Posted by msm2000uk

In your line of work (assuming you still work for the same company as a fellow FTer), I'd have thought alcohol bottles would be the last thing you'd need!

M

You are, indeed, quite right, but they're like tier points - you can never have too many!

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Sep 1, 2018, 2:13 am

#113

GBFlyer

Join Date: Aug 2015

Posts: 87

This is a strange one.... my EDI-DOH, and DOH-LHR seats are showing as available on Expert Flyer. Would there be any reason for this?

There was a strange bug when selecting 7 and 8A on the EDI-DOH where it was bumping us back to 3E&F when saving, but it seems to have now saved 7 and 8A.

The seats are confirmed on Qatar 'My Booking' and also I've put the PNR into Check My Trip and they're coming up on there too. But still showing as available on EF.

Sep 1, 2018, 4:48 am

#114

Schwann

Join Date: Dec 2011

Location: BRS

Programs: BA Gold, Hilton Diamond

Posts: 4,993

It's because of the codeshare. If you go to BA.com MMB and try to select seats it'll give you a Qatar PNR, which despite both of them using Amadaeus is different. Seat reservations made through the QR PNR seem to show in ExpertFlyer.

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Sep 1, 2018, 4:57 am

#115

xvirginx

Join Date: Jul 2005

Location: Cambridge, UK

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Posts: 73

Quote:

Originally Posted by GBFlyer

I've had the same issue. Our seats keept shifting. Not sure if it's BA or QR who are shuffling but it's the EDI/DOH and DOH/LHR (BA7009) that keeps moving. It does now appear to have settled down but doesn't explain the seat shuffling.

Sep 1, 2018, 9:21 am

#116

gallagher

Join Date: Jan 2005

Programs: Aegean Airlines Silver, British Airways Gold, Virgin Atlantic Silver

Posts: 1,740

Booked on ba.com.
I got a confirmation email, credit card debited and was able to update my API. I also received an email with seat allocations. (BA silver)
Just tried moving our seats on Qatar's website but was unable to on PEN-DOH and DOH-LHR. I looked on BA.com in Maange my Booking and both legs are now marked ' Flight not available. Please contact airline.' Other flights are showing ok and I can move / reserve seats.

We are not travelling until early 2019. Advice please?

Sep 1, 2018, 9:38 am

#117

godsavethepoints

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gallagher

Highly suggest calling QR and getting your QR PNR rather than the BA option. For anyone with QSuites on any segment, especially those booked for two, QR have blocked out all the "double bed" seats in the middle for partners, but if you login via your Qatar booking the entire seat map becomes available.

Sep 1, 2018, 10:47 am

#118

KARFA

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Quote:

Originally Posted by godsavethepoints

no need to call, the QR PNR is shown on the seat selection page on BA MMB as noted a few posts up.

Sep 1, 2018, 12:03 pm

#119

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Quote:

Originally Posted by KARFA

no need to call, the QR PNR is shown on the seat selection page on BA MMB as noted a few posts up.

however you choose to avail your QR PNR, I'm just saying that it brings up interesting anomalies, such as the wider seat selections which are blocked out via BA PNR, and in my case "I" fare classes instead of "R".

Sep 1, 2018, 12:12 pm

#120

KARFA

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Quote:

Originally Posted by godsavethepoints

yes this is inevitable since the BA PNR is not the one for the operating airline, seat maps and seat selection should be done via the operating airline PNR which in this case is the QR one. the codeshare PNR (in this case the BA one) often may not reflect correct seat maps or seat selection, but that isn't something to be worried about.

what QR shows as booking class is not really relevant, they are not the marketing airline and neither are they the ticketing airine. it is BA who would be awarding points based on the fare class they show in BA MMB.