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Old Mar 7, 2018, 9:56 am
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Qatar Airways announces financial loss

http://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/qatar/...loss-1.2184359

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Old Mar 7, 2018, 10:12 am
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Is anyone surprised by this?
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Old Mar 7, 2018, 12:10 pm
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Under FT Rules, could the OP please give a brief summary of the article without users having to click on the link.

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There isn't actually anything of substance in the article.
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Reuters: Qatar Airways to report very large loss for current fiscal year: CEO (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-q...-idUSKCN1GJ1VJ)

HE AAB: “We will announce a very large loss during the current financial year which ends this month [March 31],” he said, without giving further details.

HE AAB: QR may need to appeal to state for cashflow.

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Old Mar 7, 2018, 12:25 pm
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Originally Posted by MattEvan
Reuters: Qatar Airways to report very large loss for current fiscal year: CEO (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-q...-idUSKCN1GJ1VJ)

HE AAB: “We will announce a very large loss during the current financial year which ends this month [March 31],” he said, without giving further details.

HE AAB: QR may need to appeal to state for cashflow.

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Yes but that isn't the article that the OP linked to. However, even your own article actually states:

When asked if it was running short of cash, Baker said in an interview with Reuters TV that Qatar Airways may need to call on its state owners for extra funds should the blockade continue. “Not for the foreseeable future, but if it continues long term our shareholders will have to put additional equity into the company,” he said.
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Yes but that isn't the article that the OP linked to. However, even your own article actually states:
That's why I edited my post. You have my deepest apologies, I was wrong.
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Old Mar 7, 2018, 1:50 pm
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I wouldn’t worry too much - QR is the pride of a VERY rich country...

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When asked if it was running short of cash, Baker said in an interview with Reuters TV that Qatar Airways may need to call on its state owners for extra funds should the blockade continue. “Not for the foreseeable future, but if it continues long term our shareholders will have to put additional equity into the company,” he said.
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Old Mar 7, 2018, 1:56 pm
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Confirm as to why there has been a few enhancements in the last couple of months....
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Indeed, making a loss isn't the same as being in trouble
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Old Mar 7, 2018, 2:04 pm
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Originally Posted by Johnnieboy
Indeed, making a loss isn't the same as being in trouble
I'd expect the loss to be lower in the upcoming FY given that there's no longer an element of surprise requiring them to rebook thousands of passengers to KWI, MCT, etc. and from there onto other carriers.
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Originally Posted by WorldLux
I'd expect the loss to be lower in the upcoming FY given that there's no longer an element of surprise requiring them to rebook thousands of passengers to KWI, MCT, etc. and from there onto other carriers.
Nonetheless the DXB/AUH flights were pretty full most of the time, and probably helped filling up the LH flights out of DOH too.
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Nonetheless the DXB/AUH flights were pretty full most of the time, and probably helped filling up the LH flights out of DOH too.
I didn't say that the loss would disappear but rather that the loss will be lower. QR lost a massive customer base but it's not going to cost them tons of money to rebook existing bookings. This time last year, they had thousands of passengers booked on flights that would be cancelled. Can't imagine that it was cheap rebooking passengers.
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There you have it, QR doesn't receive subsidies, all they get is equity. I bet he could give a lengthy explanation for what the difference is for a state owned company.
Honestly, I don't really care much about the whole subsidy debate, I am just amused about the lengths that involved parties go in order to not use that term.
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There you have it, QR doesn't receive subsidies, all they get is equity. I bet he could give a lengthy explanation for what the difference is for a state owned company.
Honestly, I don't really care much about the whole subsidy debate, I am just amused about the lengths that involved parties go in order to not use that term.
100% agree, just like the US airlines dont get help from the shareholders, just the people they owe money too under Chapter 11 and of course the tax benefits. ALL airlines get subsidies one way or another, as do many , many companies as the recent tax changes in the US prove
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