I am booked in Business on QF26 in November which is currently scheduled as a 747-400 2 class aircraft. When I go to expertflyer.com to view seating chart, I see in the nose section there are 4 rows. However, in rows 3 and 4 there are center seats, 3E & 3F, and 4E & 4F. Which 747-400 is this? Or, is this an error? From QF 747-400 and 747-300 seating charts, I've noticed only row 4 as having center seats in the nose section, seats 4E & 4F. I have noticed on 3 class aircraft, in First, center rows 2, 3, & 4, has having three rows of center seats in the nose, but for the two class aircraft, only row 4 has center seats. But, for my flight, on this 2 class aircraft, there are two rows of seats in the center of the nose, and this appears to be a change from when I looked at this flight over a month ago. So I was wondering, which aircraft is this? Thanks.

See this thread:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=820169

Thanks for the link. That thread seems to indicate that with seats 3E & 3F on a 747-400, that this would be a 3 class aircraft. This is true that 3 class aircraft would have seats in row 3E & 3F, but there are also would be seats in row 2E & 2F on such an aircraft. And in all four rows, Row A is a single seat. However, on my flight, there are just 2 rows of middle seats 3E & 3F, and 4E & 4F, and NO 2E & 2F therefore I do not believe my A/c is a 3 class. Plus, there are side by side sets along the windows in rows 1-4, which also would not be a 3 class aircraft. And, there are no blocked seats showing on any seats in the nose section. So, I am doubtful my fight and aircraft is at this time a 3 class aircraft.

It's a refurbished 2 class, they have added two J seats to row 3 to make a 58J version. The seat map is not on Qantas.com as yet.

Simply consider the 2 class .pdf with two extra seats in "Zone A".

I also noticed the apparent discrepancy; but weren't the extra two J seats to be added to the upper deck (as was done when the 3-class VH-OEE was resonfigured)? Or will the 3-class equipment have 2 additional J seats upstairs and the 2-class equipment have 2 additional seats downstairs? Under those circumstances, the front J cabin would seem uncomfortably tight.

Thank you for the info and reply. Would these still be the Skybed seats?

Also, if the aircraft is refurbished, does that mean it would be a " new and improved " 747-400, any other enhancements, or what would refurbished mean other than adding 2 J seats which actually makes the nose more crowded? Thank you.

Yes, Skybeds and I guess Zone A will become "more crowded".

New Fabrics/Interiors etc as described here:

• Qantas - New Fabrics/New Livery/Premium Economy/A380 Product

Re-read the link I sent again more carefully, all of the posts. It appears the seats in 3EF are an anomoly. Actually, on my flight, they appeard a week ago and now have disappeared again.

Perhaps an anomoly; but many 2-class 744 maps show the 3E/Ft.

Look at QF25 8/8/08.

I recently took that flight with a 3 class seat plan that turned into a 2 class 747 when we got there our plotted out 1st class seats were gone. Luckily they moved us to 16 j/k