QF to codeshare with NZ
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QF to codeshare with NZ
Qantas have announced an agreement with Air NZ which is interesting, given they compete domesitcally in NZ via Jetstar.
https://www.qantasnewsroom.com.au/me...travel-easier/
- Codeshare agreement on 115 domestic routes in New Zealand and Australia
- Faster connections between flights to reduce total journey time by up to two hours
- Other potential areas of cooperation include ground handling, freight and biofuel
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Groundhog day (almost - and noting the exclusion of TT flights). QF used to code share on NZ DC8s SYD-WLG. I assume that was because QF didn’t think they could stop on the short WLG runway.
I must have missed the part that (could have) said that the code share deal will lead to efficiencies that help lower prices for the passengers.
I must have missed the part that (could have) said that the code share deal will lead to efficiencies that help lower prices for the passengers.
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[off topic]
QF used to operate a B747SP into WLG
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_747SP
[on topic]
Air NZ will be reason for the QF "Buy on Board for Meals Inflight Movies etc" being considered.
With the codeshare expect will be close to a mirror image on NZ pricing methods.
Rumour: Qantas is Looking at Buy on Board for Meals Inflight Movies
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_747SP
A Qantas 747SP, the first 747SP to land at Wellington International Airport, New Zealand in 1981.
Air NZ will be reason for the QF "Buy on Board for Meals Inflight Movies etc" being considered.
With the codeshare expect will be close to a mirror image on NZ pricing methods.
Rumour: Qantas is Looking at Buy on Board for Meals Inflight Movies
Last edited by Mwenenzi; May 31, 2018 at 8:38 pm
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Air NZ will be reason for the QF "Buy on Board for Meals Inflight Movies etc" consider. With the codeshare expect will be close to a mirror image on NZ pricing methods.
Rumour: Qantas is Looking at Buy on Board for Meals Inflight Movies
Does make me wonder if JQNZ days are now limited?
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[off topic]
QF used to operate a B747SP into WLG
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_747SP
[on topic]
Air NZ will be reason for the QF "Buy on Board for Meals Inflight Movies etc" being considered.
With the codeshare expect will be close to a mirror image on NZ pricing methods.
Rumour: Qantas is Looking at Buy on Board for Meals Inflight Movies
QF used to operate a B747SP into WLG
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_747SP
[on topic]
Air NZ will be reason for the QF "Buy on Board for Meals Inflight Movies etc" being considered.
With the codeshare expect will be close to a mirror image on NZ pricing methods.
Rumour: Qantas is Looking at Buy on Board for Meals Inflight Movies
But VA has GO fare = Seat only, GO plus fare = Seat + bag, Getaway = Works on NZ and Freedom = Flexi? I really hate the VA names they're so unintuitive!
I think QF was reacting to VA, not Air NZ. Just watching the other competition like wifi roll out, business suites etc and the home market is huge compared to NZ.
NZ had to compete with JQ and why not do that using the same planes they have rather than trying to add more planes to create a LCC. I suspect QF has way more money in the bank and far more customers to deal with than Air NZ.
I would have bought a seat only fare from Qantas because I eat in the lounge anyway. I'd rather keep the $20 as it adds up over flights or spent it on a better seat than food. Infrequently I buy F&B on NZ across the Tasman and it's not an issue at all. It's fine!
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I think QF was reacting to VA, not Air NZ. Just watching the other competition like wifi roll out, business suites etc and the home market is huge compared to NZ.
NZ had to compete with JQ and why not do that using the same planes they have rather than trying to add more planes to create a LCC. I suspect QF has way more money in the bank and far more customers to deal with than Air NZ.
NZ had to compete with JQ and why not do that using the same planes they have rather than trying to add more planes to create a LCC. I suspect QF has way more money in the bank and far more customers to deal with than Air NZ.
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https://australianaviation.com.au/ai...odeshare-deal/
I don't think VA and NZ CEOs saw eye to eye and things have been spiralling downwards ever since.
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Unlikely. This is a codeshare arrangement and not an alliance/ffp arrangement. Need the full details
Probably will only be able to use QF Au domestic flights as tag on to a TT flight.
Probably will only be able to use QF Au domestic flights as tag on to a TT flight.
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QF/NZ code-share now live
Looks like the QF/NZ codeshare deal has now gone live for sales, they seem to be allowing some pretty tight connections in places such as SYD I guess they are certain they have engough offer flights to transfer you too?
Ironically you can book the advertised BHE to BME directly on QF's website - yet you can't with NZ.
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Thanks for this. I am still surprised that this isn't attracting more attention from the competition watchdogs. But maybe code-sharing is not enough to trigger that.
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The equivalent thread in the Air NZ forum---->Air NZ to codeshare with Qantas
Linked is an ausbt info, with Air NZ earning & lounge access ---> https://www.ausbt.com.au/earning-air...tm_source=hero
Linked is an ausbt info, with Air NZ earning & lounge access ---> https://www.ausbt.com.au/earning-air...tm_source=hero