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Chalkie Dec 4, 2015 4:57 pm

Boarding Queue Management
 
Why is QF unable - or unwilling - to manage its boarding queues? This morning at MEL domestic was absurd. No policing of who was in the priority queue, and no active management. Deeply irritating!!!

og Dec 4, 2015 8:05 pm


Originally Posted by Chalkie (Post 25815403)
Why is QF unable - or unwilling - to manage its boarding queues? This morning at MEL domestic was absurd. No policing of who was in the priority queue, and no active management. Deeply irritating!!!

Just do what the important people do in the USA - walk up to the front of the line and push in. :rolleyes:

Platy Dec 4, 2015 10:44 pm


Originally Posted by Chalkie (Post 25815403)
Why is QF unable - or unwilling - to manage its boarding queues? This morning at MEL domestic was absurd. No policing of who was in the priority queue, and no active management. Deeply irritating!!!

Yep, I find that to be the case more often than not - the priority queue completely ignored / unmanaged.

The answer is simply to prolong lounge time and get on last - try to get front row so the crew have to find space for your cabin bags if the overheads get jammed full of unchallenged excess bags.

That said, shock - horror, I have been on two recent flights when QF actually boarded the aircraft from both front and rear!

That's only taken them, what, ten years to figure out (compared with VA and JQ)?


(...cue some Tory twit to blame the unions instead of management's stupidity...)

Airvan00 Dec 4, 2015 10:50 pm


Originally Posted by Platy (Post 25816591)

The answer is simply to prolong lounge time and get on last - try to get front row so the crew have to find space for your cabin bags if the overheads get jammed full of unchallenged excess bags...)

Extra lounge time is the answer. Unfortunately on my last two flights I have over done it and got paged. No problem arriving at the gate as everybody had boarded and I had a clear run on board.

Mwenenzi Dec 4, 2015 11:25 pm

Part of the problem is
- the signs are not high enough to see from a distance
- the signs are not consistently on the left or the right

Cedar Jet Dec 5, 2015 4:32 pm

God bless JAL
 
Now there is boarding at its finest.......so simple but Qantas don't care or else they would do something about it. Hmmmm......Do I maximise lounge time and leave boarding to last min to avoid the scrum or do I cut lounge time to ensure I get to board as intended and secure overhead locker space above my seat.... Decisions decisions🤔 Red Roo care to shed light as to why the seemingly most basic things are just too hard for QF?

og Dec 5, 2015 4:55 pm


Originally Posted by Mwenenzi (Post 25816658)
Part of the problem is
- the signs are not high enough to see from a distance
- the signs are not consistently on the left or the right

There was almost a riot at SCL today. Everyone lined up neatly behind the sign showing their row numbers and then the gate staff rearranged the signs. Not once, but three times. People just started laughing at the agent trying to achieve perfection after shuffling to the new sign location. Everyone gave up and just formed one long line - which, strangely enough, worked.

glazfolk Dec 6, 2015 2:27 am

On a recent Dragonair flight from (I think) Shanghai to Hong Kong there were three separate boarding lines - F, J and Y. Staff checked everyone's pass before boarding commenced and made sure interlopers were despatched to the back of the correct line.

og Dec 6, 2015 4:07 am


Originally Posted by glazfolk (Post 25820606)
On a recent Dragonair flight from (I think) Shanghai to Hong Kong there were three separate boarding lines - F, J and Y. Staff checked everyone's pass before boarding commenced and made sure interlopers were despatched to the back of the correct line.

That works if there are enough staff assigned to do such a task. QF seems to have no surplus staff for anything at all - and I suspect they don't really care anyway.

Chalkie Dec 6, 2015 2:54 pm


Originally Posted by og (Post 25816154)
Just do what the important people do in the USA - walk up to the front of the line and push in. :rolleyes:

I wish I could - but my cultural reluctance to queue jump is too strong!

deeruck Dec 6, 2015 3:45 pm


Originally Posted by og (Post 25819275)
There was almost a riot at SCL today. Everyone lined up neatly behind the sign showing their row numbers and then the gate staff rearranged the signs. Not once, but three times. People just started laughing at the agent trying to achieve perfection after shuffling to the new sign location. Everyone gave up and just formed one long line - which, strangely enough, worked.

I've seen this in action at BNE prior to boarding a 744 to LAX. Nicely formed two queues, business/priority and other (forgive me if the groups aren't exactly right), then the gate agent spins the sign around. Cue predictable chaos as some try to switch and some don't. Lovely.

Awesom Andy Dec 6, 2015 11:38 pm

I boarded a CX flight from SIN which take the idea to its extreme level. They fenced off a section of the boarding gate lounge for J (and I assume it is also used for elites and pax who require assistance and families with young children). Everyone there gets a seat, and board the flight at the appropriate time. The rest of the masses get held up behind the fence, and participate in the "scrum" while watching the elites board. I guess it works in SIN, but trying this in other countries may result in absolute chaos.

moa999 Dec 7, 2015 7:12 pm


Originally Posted by Awesom Andy (Post 25824242)
I boarded a CX flight from SIN which take the idea to its extreme level. They fenced off a section of the boarding gate lounge for J (and I assume it is also used for elites and pax who require assistance and families with young children). Everyone there gets a seat, and board the flight at the appropriate time. The rest of the masses get held up behind the fence, and participate in the "scrum" while watching the elites board. I guess it works in SIN, but trying this in other countries may result in absolute chaos.

Sort of the opposite to VAs pens (which work quite well)
If you sit down in the gate area the only queue you can access easily is the normal queue, the priority queue is kept separate and well identified by the carpet colour as well (works well imho given most elites will be at the lounge until relatively close to flight)

bensyd Dec 7, 2015 9:12 pm

Last month on QF12 the boarding process was a total farce. Every punter and his dog just surged forward. There was absolutely no management of who was boarding. I ended up boarding in the Y line because it was the shortest.

Cedar Jet Dec 8, 2015 12:03 am

DXB premium boarding.
 
I also think EK and Dubai have mastered it.....a lift from J & F lounge straight down to aerobridge, no departure gate pain needed. Clever.^


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