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And you thought liquid checks were bad....Here come powders

Old Aug 21, 09, 9:13 am
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Originally Posted by njx9 View Post
I have absolutely no idea what this has to do with my post or the question I asked.
Fair enough, sorry you didn't enjoy my humor.

Have you ever carried a sports drink mix? A freeze dried food in powder form?

Since no policy has been officially published or discussed by TSA other than a few mentioned from individual TSO's who have posted here no one knows what, when or how this powder thing will be implemented if at all.
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Old Aug 21, 09, 9:56 am
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Originally Posted by Boggie Dog View Post
A freeze dried food in powder form?

Since no policy has been officially published or discussed by TSA other than a few mentioned from individual TSO's who have posted here no one knows what, when or how this powder thing will be implemented if at all.
Freeze-dried food. I hadn't thought about it and I am scheduled to go on a backcountry trip in a few weeks with lots of freeze-dried food in sealed packages.

Most of the freeze-dried is in chunks, but some crunches down into powder. If they open it up, it can't be resealed. And then going through Customs & Immigration in Canada, there might then be issues about my opened food.

Let's hope that this proposal never gets off the ground, but that if it does it will only apply to carry-ons.
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Old Aug 21, 09, 10:09 am
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Originally Posted by Boggie Dog View Post
Fair enough, sorry you didn't enjoy my humor.

Have you ever carried a sports drink mix? A freeze dried food in powder form?

Since no policy has been officially published or discussed by TSA other than a few mentioned from individual TSO's who have posted here no one knows what, when or how this powder thing will be implemented if at all.
Sorry, I misread the roll-eyes thing. They were used... differently.. on another board I posted to.

I haven't, but ok, that makes a bit more sense. (And yes, I'm fully expecting non-standard, bizarre enforcement [like pasta=liquid], so was really trying to come up with "standard" stuff that would fit the "powder" definition)

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Perhaps with all of this you will need to take a BC Powder.
God... I can only imagine how godawful that stuff must taste. "Place the powder directly on the tongue and swallow with water" sounds like a horrible idea.

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Old Aug 21, 09, 5:51 pm
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Originally Posted by Boggie Dog View Post
Have you ever carried a sports drink mix? A freeze dried food in powder form?
Soup mix? Instant coffee? Sugar? Salt? I'd guess lots of frequent travellers have such things in their bags.

The nuisance factor is going to come in the fact that many of these things are in paper or foil one-use packets; if they have to open it to "test" it, it becomes useless.

Despite any official announcement on this (or maybe because of that), it sounds like exactly the sort of idiotic, retrograde, incompetent, ill-conceived "enhancement" that TSA HQ would come up with.
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Old Aug 21, 09, 6:09 pm
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Huntsville will begin the new procedure for powder screening monday, I'm told.

Good times.
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Old Aug 21, 09, 6:56 pm
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Still nothing on the TSA website about the new "rules." Gotta love an out of control agency that feels it has no need to be accountable to the Constitution its officers swear an oath to uphold and defend to the best of their abilities.

How TSA personnel can live with themselves in good conscience is beyond me.
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Old Aug 21, 09, 7:12 pm
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Originally Posted by HSVTSO Dean View Post
Huntsville will begin the new procedure for powder screening monday, I'm told.

Good times.
And is there any intention of, ya know, actually informing passengers in advance so that they can pack accordingly, or is that now considered so 20th century? TSA can just introduce stupid, unsupported, intrusive new procedures without warning?

Where to from here? Next week, people with green shirts will not be allowed to fly. Just because. The week after, all hardback books will be confiscated. Because they can, that's why. Is there no end to this madness?
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Old Aug 21, 09, 7:16 pm
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Originally Posted by RadioGirl View Post
TSA can just introduce stupid, unsupported, intrusive new procedures without warning?
I'll skip the countdown - I am sure someone official from TSA would answer "Consistent Inconsistency®."

They are not accountable for their actions, at either the individual worker-bee level or any level of management...hence, they could give a rat's fat @$$ about informing anyone through anything other than the grapevine "unofficial" comment route, like our friendly TSO members here.
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Old Aug 21, 09, 7:29 pm
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Originally Posted by HSVTSO Dean View Post
Huntsville will begin the new procedure for powder screening monday, I'm told. Good times.
Hi Dean, can you clarify to us what you were told, when you were told and was it done by a supervisor at HSV, general email, or another method?? Can you give us any specifics as to what will be allowed vs not allowed? Is all powder banned, or is everything going to be tested now? Any details you may have that you can share would be nice. Many Thanks
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Old Aug 21, 09, 7:46 pm
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Originally Posted by Spence1097 View Post
Hi Dean, can you clarify to us what you were told, when you were told and was it done by a supervisor at HSV, general email, or another method?? Can you give us any specifics as to what will be allowed vs not allowed? Is all powder banned, or is everything going to be tested now? Any details you may have that you can share would be nice. Many Thanks
At this point, given the obviously sly nature of TSA implementing this, I am assuming that information falls under TSA's bullspit SSI policy. I am further assuming that Dean won't say much beyond what he has said, until the policies are made public, as it would probably get him in deep bullspit with his supes.
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Old Aug 21, 09, 7:48 pm
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Originally Posted by njx9 View Post
Sorry, I misread the roll-eyes thing. They were used... differently.. on another board I posted to.

I haven't, but ok, that makes a bit more sense. (And yes, I'm fully expecting non-standard, bizarre enforcement [like pasta=liquid], so was really trying to come up with "standard" stuff that would fit the "powder" definition)

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God... I can only imagine how godawful that stuff must taste. "Place the powder directly on the tongue and swallow with water" sounds like a horrible idea.

Taste real bad, works real good. Really!
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Old Aug 21, 09, 8:16 pm
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Originally Posted by HSVTSO Dean View Post
Huntsville will begin the new procedure for powder screening monday, I'm told.

Good times.
Does it involve sniffing the same coke that TSA's been snorting?
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Old Aug 21, 09, 11:37 pm
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Originally Posted by RadioGirl View Post
And is there any intention of, ya know, actually informing passengers in advance so that they can pack accordingly, or is that now considered so 20th century? TSA can just introduce stupid, unsupported, intrusive new procedures without warning?
Gee RG, we have signage at all the entrances to the airports, in the bathrooms, announcements blaring overhead, more signs on the concourses, notifications on airline web pages, news stories (both print and video media), blogs, web sites, and even pamphlets that are available, and people STILL cant get the right sized liquids in their carry-on's. Just what the heck do you think one more sign, one more announcement or one more web page are going to do?

Geez, and you people call the TSA unreasonable! Exercise some personal responsibility and take the time to find out for yourself!

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Old Aug 21, 09, 11:47 pm
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Originally Posted by TSORon View Post
Geez, and you people call the TSA unreasonable! Exercise some personal responsibility and take the time to find out for yourself!

Some of us would FRACKING love to...however, the agency that you are so deep in bed with as an employee has absolutely ZERO information, OF ANY KIND, displayed on any page or any Federal Register entries about this new anal shafting coming down the pipe. NOTHING.

The only thing we have about it is the extremely cryptic, lacking information for fear of breaking SSI rules, posts from a couple of TSO on this forum and in several other non-governmental websites on the Internet.

Get off your fracking high-horse about telling us to have some fracking responsibility. Read the damn thread; several people have commented about the absolute dirth of information coming from your asinine employer. Don't sit here and spout SH*T about us, the traveling public, taking responsibility to find out information about the newest asinine rule of the day, when your fracking asshat organization doesn't have the fracking balls to post the rule itself to the public.
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Old Aug 22, 09, 12:42 am
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Originally Posted by Boggie Dog View Post
Since no policy has been officially published or discussed by TSA other than a few mentioned from individual TSO's who have posted here no one knows what, when or how this powder thing will be implemented if at all.
Well, no public policy, but there's an SOP on it. I kid you not, I was required to read on and sign off on it.

Originally Posted by RadioGirl View Post
And is there any intention of, ya know, actually informing passengers in advance so that they can pack accordingly, or is that now considered so 20th century? TSA can just introduce stupid, unsupported, intrusive new procedures without warning?
Just a sign with some wording... that hasn't been provided to us... so apparently... we're legally required to put the sign up... but... HQ apparently expects us to make the sign and not just send some out to us...

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