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Originally Posted by TSORon
(Post 11775944)
She missed a good opportunity for a question just as telling. “How many terrorists, once they had seen the TSA in action, have walked away and not even tried?”
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Originally Posted by manneca
(Post 11769584)
2. So, TSA partners with foreign governments. How does that improve my experience of going through security?
*I'm talking about what happens at the actual checkpoint. Some airports have long lines and are confusing but that's beside the point. |
Originally Posted by 4444
(Post 11775976)
:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: lol. the answer is zero. if someone wants to bring down an aircraft you can bet your a*s that the tsa is powerless to stop them. what a friggin joke......
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Originally Posted by TSORon
(Post 11775944)
She missed a good opportunity for a question just as telling. “How many terrorists, once they had seen the TSA in action, have walked away and not even tried?”
Americans pay $7B every year for a circus - just look at the unnecessary sideshow over whether "shoes out of bins" is mandatory or not as one small example of the Keystone Kops approach to security. Americans are constantly reminded to be suspicious of anyone who's a little bit "different" and to watch what their neighbors are doing. They bleat about "anything is okay as long as there's not another 9/11". :rolleyes: The purpose of terrorism is not to fly aircraft into buildings. That's one of the means, not the end. The purpose of terrorism is to make people live in fear, to break down a sense of community, to eliminate freedom, to drain governments of money that could be going to far better things. Any of that sound familiar? |
Originally Posted by TSORon
(Post 11775944)
She missed a good opportunity for a question just as telling. “How many terrorists, once they had seen the TSA in action, have walked away and not even tried?”
Can you interest you in the asteroid chaser in the trunk of my car? I guarantee you that you won't have any trouble with asteroids if you buy it. |
Originally Posted by PTravel
(Post 11777154)
Well, that's quite a good point. After all, I always put on my elephant repellent before leaving the house each morning and, since I've started doing it, I have not seen one single elephant near me. Clearly my elephant repellent is equally as effective as TSA.
Can you interest you in the asteroid chaser in the trunk of my car? I guarantee you that you won't have any trouble with asteroids if you buy it. |
Originally Posted by Mr. Gel-pack
(Post 11779512)
How good is your guarantee? If I do get killed by an asteroid, will you call it a fluke and then sign my survivors up for a more expensive version of your asteroid chaser? That's the MO I expect from TSA.
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Originally Posted by PTravel
(Post 11780506)
In the event the world is destroyed by an asteroid, you'll get my sincere apologies, while I look for someone else to blame. Just like TSA.
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Originally Posted by IslandBased
(Post 11780545)
Postmortem, I presume?
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Originally Posted by PTravel
(Post 11780623)
You expected a logical response? ;)
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Originally Posted by manneca
(Post 11754116)
I was screened yesterday at TLV and at EWR. TVL was wonderful. There were two people working the screening position. One sat behind the monitor and the other came forward to help me. Smiling, very polite. No shouting. Helped me arrange my items. I didn't have to take out my Kippie bag nor my camera. Just my laptop. Helped me put it in a bin. I took off my vest (loaded with electronics) and he put it in a bin for me.
At EWR, completely different experience. A woman TSO yelled at me because I wasn't moving my bins along as I unpacked all the junk: Kippie bag, laptop, camera, vest, jacket, shoes, and loaded my carryon bag and backpack. I told people behind me to go around me. I was trying to take up as little space as possible at the end of the table because I need about five bins. She just stood there, yelling at me. I ignored her basically because if I had moved my stuff along as I unpacked (a difficult task) I would have arrived at the screening machine without all my stuff in its proper position. How much does it take to have a little care and courtesy? Obviously more than TSA is willing to expend. It is as simple as a mindset. When I was manager of a field office for a nonprofit, I taught my employees basic skills: smile, listen, help. TSA's approach seems to be indimidate, yell, don't listen, and for heaven's sake, don't help. This is why Americans who fly hate TSA. Their security is the best in the world. Ours is a jobs program for the unemployable that is more worried about how we look to "citizens of the world" and to the American Confused Liberals Union than about actually keeping air transport safe. But hey, at least we have snazzy blue shirts and tin badges so our screeners can feel better about themselves. --PP |
Originally Posted by AngryMiller
(Post 11754991)
At Schiphol and Helsinki the thing I noticed the most was how quiet the airport was when they don't have droning messages over the PA system. Nice.
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TSORon: I have a question for you though. If you by had had a knife in your pocket, just how friendly do you think those Israeli screeners would have been?
This has in fact happened to my husband, though in Sydney and not in TLV. The lady at security pointed out that he had a knife in his carry-on bag and after we had told her that we had passed the checkpoints in Munich, Heathrow and Sydney (we connected to another flight) she thanked us, felt sorry for having to throw away his beloved knife and called her colleagues at the other security checkpoint to talk about this. We did not have any trouble whatsoever and were on our way within minutes. |
Originally Posted by Spiny Lumpsucker
(Post 11780858)
This has in fact happened to my husband, though in Sydney and not in TLV. The lady at security pointed out that he had a knife in his carry-on bag and after we had told her that we had passed the checkpoints in Munich, Heathrow and Sydney (we connected to another flight) she thanked us, felt sorry for having to throw away his beloved knife and called her colleagues at the other security checkpoint to talk about this. We did not have any trouble whatsoever and were on our way within minutes.
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Originally Posted by triehle
(Post 11781233)
Well, now that's a very weird story, you [B]Spiny Lumpsucker. Don't they assume that anyone who wants to fly today must be a terrorist? That's how we do it here, you know.
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