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Trollkiller May 8, 2009 1:12 pm


Originally Posted by Bart (Post 11715323)
I can understand how and why the search included the credit cards. I am truly amazed that the rest of you cannot.

You guys make me giggle.

Okay Giggles, I will bite. Why would the search include READING the credit cards?

Mr. Gel-pack May 8, 2009 1:34 pm


Originally Posted by Bart (Post 11715323)
I can understand how and why the search included the credit cards. I am truly amazed that the rest of you cannot.

You guys make me giggle.

I got one: he was looking for a bribe.

Wally Bird May 8, 2009 4:18 pm


Originally Posted by gj83 (Post 11715366)
If the link is so obvious Bart, would you care to enlighten us?

Then we would know as much as he does. He'll never let that happen, cupcake.

Global_Hi_Flyer May 8, 2009 5:26 pm


Originally Posted by magellan315 (Post 11715640)
Then why don't you enlighten as to why it is done. Having had problems with identity theft

+1

Twice for me. By supposedly "trusted" people (including front desk managers at hotels).

erictank May 8, 2009 8:43 pm


Originally Posted by Bart (Post 11715323)
I can understand how and why the search included the credit cards. I am truly amazed that the rest of you cannot.

Considering how far outside TSA's mandate checking credit cards is, I'm truly amazed you can say what you did, Bart. Or did the screeners in question have some legitimate reason to believe they were actually knives, or perhaps made of plastic explosive? Then, I would say they would have reason to examine the cards more closely. As it stands? Not a chance in hell.:td:


Originally Posted by Bart (Post 11715323)
You guys make me giggle.

That doesn't exactly say anything complimentary about you, frankly.

law dawg May 8, 2009 8:52 pm


Originally Posted by Trollkiller (Post 11717720)
Okay Giggles, I will bite. Why would the search include READING the credit cards?

This, maybe?

just guessing, not sure as to answer...

PTravel May 8, 2009 9:07 pm


Originally Posted by law dawg (Post 11719672)
This, maybe?

just guessing, not sure as to answer...

Wouldn't that alarm the WTMD and show up on a hand sweep? Does it involve reading the credit card to determine if it is one of these things?

spotnik May 8, 2009 10:10 pm


Originally Posted by gj83 (Post 11715366)
Did I miss the story about Al Qaeda and credit card fraud or the Unabomber and credit card fraud?

Apparently:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29412159/


Al-Marri arrived in Peoria in September 2001 with his wife and five children to do graduate work at Bradley University. Three months later he was charged with credit card fraud and possession of false ID's.
http://counterterrorismblog.org/Hous...0Statement.pdf


2. The terrorists who executed the devastating 2004 Madrid train bombings, which killed almost 200 people, and who carried out the deadly July 7, 2005, attacks on the transportation system in London were self-financed, in part through credit card fraud.

............

4. Younes Tsouli, aka “Terrorist 007,” and his two associates, Waseem Mughal and Tariq al-Daour, used computer viruses and stolen credit card accounts to set up a network of communication forums and web sites that hosted everything from tutorials on computer hacking and bomb making to videos of beheadings and suicide bombing attacks in Iraq. They raised
funds through credit card information theft and fraud, which were used to support the communications, propaganda and recruitment for terrorists worldwide, as well as to purchase equipment for Jihadists in the field. One expert described their activities as “operating an online dating service for al-Qaeda.” The three men pled guilty to inciting terrorist murder via the
internet.
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/COL254706.htm


Sabarathnam Selvathurai, whose nom de guerre was Thamilendri, administered LTTE finances, which analysts say which were built to hundreds of millions of dollars a year up through smuggling, credit card fraud, extortion and Tamil diaspora donations.
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/view/68295


It is no longer acceptable to dismiss credit card fraud as a petty crime. This is not a petty crime when 200 or more people are killed from a terrorist bomb.

RadioGirl May 8, 2009 10:49 pm

Let me see if I've got this right.

Some/many/most terrorists are funded by credit card fraud. Got it.
Credit card fraud is really bad, regardless of whether linked to terrorism or not. Okay so far.
Credit card fraud requires credit cards, so anyone with credit cards might be a terrorist. You're starting to lose me.
Credit cards are found in wallets (except mine. After my wallet was stolen I keep the CCs separate.). So you want to read everything in people's wallet. Fail.:td:

I notice from your links that a lot of terrorists use the internet. That makes everyone here a suspect. Better go turn yourselves in. :rolleyes:

polonius May 9, 2009 1:58 pm


Originally Posted by RadioGirl (Post 11719959)
Let me see if I've got this right.

Some/many/most terrorists are funded by credit card fraud. Got it.
Credit card fraud is really bad, regardless of whether linked to terrorism or not. Okay so far.
Credit card fraud requires credit cards, so anyone with credit cards might be a terrorist. You're starting to lose me.
Credit cards are found in wallets (except mine. After my wallet was stolen I keep the CCs separate.). So you want to read everything in people's wallet. Fail.:td:

I notice from your links that a lot of terrorists use the internet. That makes everyone here a suspect. Better go turn yourselves in. :rolleyes:

Yeah, this goes in the same waste-bin as the other things the US government did to respond to 9/11. Because the funding for 9/11 was transferred through the Arab Bank, they closed the Arab Bank branch in NYC. Conveniently ignored -- the funding also passed through banks in NYC and London. Because the terrorists co-ordinated with long distance calls using Somali telecom, the U.S. had Somali telecom disconnected from the international network. Conveniently ignored -- the calls also used the Verizon, AT&T and Sprint networks. 18 of 19 9/11 hijackers held Saudi passports, so Saudis are particulary suspect. Conveniently ignored -- 18 of the 19 also preferred Coke over Pepsi, so should we be checking Coke drinkers more carefully?

AngryMiller May 9, 2009 2:36 pm


Originally Posted by Global_Hi_Flyer (Post 11719034)
+1

Twice for me. By supposedly "trusted" people (including front desk managers at hotels).

I had my bank account cleaned out by a desk clerk (incidental expenses) and needless to say they don't get my card for any reason. My company faxes in a copy of the corporate card to deal with hotel rooms.

RadioGirl May 9, 2009 8:08 pm


Originally Posted by polonius (Post 11722144)
Conveniently ignored -- 18 of the 19 also preferred Coke over Pepsi, so should we be checking Coke drinkers more carefully?

I have credit cards, I use the interwebs and I prefer Coke. :eek:

"Dear Mom, can't come back to visit. I'm on the No Fly List."

There's a thought. RadioMom just discovered email; I'll put her onto Nappy! There's no force in the universe like a stubborn woman with unlimited time. :D

Trollkiller May 9, 2009 8:21 pm


Originally Posted by RadioGirl (Post 11723232)
I have credit cards, I use the interwebs and I prefer Coke. :eek:

"Dear Mom, can't come back to visit. I'm on the No Fly List."

There's a thought. RadioMom just discovered email; I'll put her onto Nappy! There's no force in the universe like a stubborn woman with unlimited time. :D

Damn!

RadioGirl May 9, 2009 10:17 pm


Originally Posted by Trollkiller (Post 11723263)
Damn!

Calm down, TK. Just spoke to RadioMom and she's planning on starting with BHO. She reckons nothing will influence Nappy anyway. :(

Trollkiller May 9, 2009 10:46 pm


Originally Posted by RadioGirl (Post 11723526)
Calm down, TK. Just spoke to RadioMom and she's planning on starting with BHO. She reckons nothing will influence Nappy anyway. :(

Teach her how to CC Nappy with all security related emails to BHO. And tell her Trollkiller says "Happy Mother's Day".


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