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Boggie Dog May 8, 2009 8:34 pm


Originally Posted by Crazyace718 (Post 11719497)
I was thinking the same thing while I wrote my comment. I'm surprised Boggie didn't bring it up. Ironic isn't it?



Is it inevitable that his property will be stolen, if so will it be by that same screener? Is there any real proof that the screener was going to steal his things or has stolen anything in the past?
He is jumping at shadows and basically wasting the time and resources of people up the ladder. Why chase hypothetical thefts when they can go after screeners who have actually been caught stealing?
Today I saw a post about someone who had an engagement ring stolen from their luggage. Should Boggie's situation should have equal priority to those dealing with actual thefts?



Thats absolutely true and if something happened to be missing from your bag accusing the TSO of theft would be warranted. If not you could walk up to the supervisor and inform him that the screener is breaking procedure.

Boggie however was not missing any property. He wants the FSD to investigate a TSO on a crime that never occurred but might have happened in some alternate reality.

Lets imagine that you posted "I hate Kipp Hawley" on this forum. Somewhere down the line you run into Kip near a flight of stairs and walk past him. Later someone says " That's RadioGirl she doesn't like Kipp. She was going to push him down the stairs but didnt because I was there. I know she thought about it though, she ought to be locked up".

Oh when you get some time check out the movie Minority Report. ^


Not to get in a contest of wills here but the action I observed ended when I stopped, turned and approached the screener.

It is my firm opinion that something was up.

I am exposed to federal inmates daily and one gains some respect for a persons actions even if they may seem innocent. I am also observant and aware of what is going on around me.

Now, as a good citizen I felt the right thing to do was to notify the proper people. I did this through the TSA "Got Feedback" method and I really felt my concern was round-filed. Attempted follow-up did not even get a response over the course of a couple of months until I asked for the FSD contact information.


I don't think proof of a theft is needed when letting the chain of command know that a possible problem exist. It is the lack of concern on the part of these officials that disturbs me more than what happened at the checkpoint. Regardless I would hope that some internal action was taken to at least observe this person covertly. And that was the bottom line, just a warning.

So for my part this is where it ends.

Sadly someone may transit this same airport and if my concerns are correct may depart with property missing. They will have no idea of how it happened.

And the show goes on.

RadioGirl May 8, 2009 10:25 pm


Originally Posted by Crazyace718 (Post 11719497)
Is it inevitable that his property will be stolen, if so will it be by that same screener? Is there any real proof that the screener was going to steal his things or has stolen anything in the past?

No, Boggie Dog's property might be stolen next week at another airport where sheeple were too scared to say anything. And this screener might steal someone else's stuff if Boggie Dog doesn't speak up.

If the supervisor is doing his job honestly (and there's a number of stories here about supervisors who simply supported the bad behavior of their screeners), it should be up to him. If the screener in question has an exemplary record and this is a one-off complaint, the supe can just shrug it off. If the screener is an honest guy but a bit gung-ho, the supe should remind him not to take bags away without the passenger being able to see what's going on. But if this is the third complaint this week, and other people have accused that screener of taking something but it couldn't be proved, the supe might want to remind the screener of the right process and keep a closer eye on him.

Think of it as "if you see something, say something." :p

Originally Posted by Crazyace718 (Post 11719497)
He is jumping at shadows and basically wasting the time and resources of people up the ladder. Why chase hypothetical thefts when they can go after screeners who have actually been caught stealing?

The guy actually picked up the bag. It's a bit beyond "hypothetical" and moving towards "stopped in the act." And there's no (zero, none, zip, nada) evidence that TSA goes after screeners who have actually been caught stealing, mostly because TSA denies that screeners ever steal anything, so there's not much risk of slowing down those investigations.

Originally Posted by Crazyace718 (Post 11719497)
Today I saw a post about someone who had an engagement ring stolen from their luggage. Should Boggie's situation should have equal priority to those dealing with actual thefts?

Please let us know what, other than TSORon suggesting they probably left it at home, :rolleyes: TSA is doing about that actual theft. Hint: trying blaming the baggage handlers. :td:

Originally Posted by Crazyace718 (Post 11719497)
Thats absolutely true and if something happened to be missing from your bag accusing the TSO of theft would be warranted. If not you could walk up to the supervisor and inform him that the screener is breaking procedure.

And when the supe says, "How can you prove you had a camera in there? You probably left it at home or put it in your checked bag. Please move along, you're holding up the line." what do you suggest? For heaven's sake, the whole attitude of TSA is to act on the slightest hint of anything to prevent planes going down, but when it comes to theft from bags, you suggest we don't do anything until it actually happens and then try to get someone to admit to it? Why not let me through with my ticking Acme time-bomb and then, if the plane goes down, you can charge me with something?

Originally Posted by Crazyace718 (Post 11719497)
Lets imagine that you posted "I hate Kipp Hawley" on this forum.

Not much of a stretch.

Originally Posted by Crazyace718 (Post 11719497)
Somewhere down the line you run into Kip near a flight of stairs and walk past him. Later someone says " That's RadioGirl she doesn't like Kipp. She was going to push him down the stairs but didnt because I was there. I know she thought about it though, she ought to be locked up".

The screener actually picked up Boggie Dog's wife's bag. It moved past "thought about it" at that point. I'm pretty sure that if you came in, saw me with my hands on Kip's back and starting to push, and I stopped when I saw you, you'd go tell someone about it. And I haven't seen Boggie Dog calling for the guy to be locked up, just asking someone to look into it.

Originally Posted by Crazyace718 (Post 11719497)
Oh when you get some time check out the movie Minority Report. ^

Seen it. Made me think of BDOs. And screeners who think they are.


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