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Boggie Dog May 5, 2009 9:00 am

LIST OF TSA FSD's
 
Looking for a list of FSD's. In particular FLL. Any help appreciated.



(Wish my fingers read better!)

Trollkiller May 5, 2009 11:24 am


Originally Posted by Boggie Dog (Post 11697288)
Looking for a list of FDS's. In particular FLL. Any help appreciated.

For those not in the know please explain what a FDS is.

whirledtraveler May 5, 2009 11:45 am


Originally Posted by Trollkiller (Post 11698229)
For those not in the know please explain what a FDS is.

I'm guessing it is FSD: "Federal Security Director."

DevilDog438 May 5, 2009 11:46 am

Per Boggie Dog's original title, I think he was referring to the FSD role:

Federal Security Director - lead government employee for a TSA Airport and/or Region

http://www.tsa.gov/join/careers/care..._jobs_fsd.shtm

bocastephen May 5, 2009 12:03 pm


Originally Posted by Boggie Dog (Post 11697288)
Looking for a list of FSD's. In particular FLL. Any help appreciated.



(Wish my fingers read better!)

I have an email from the FLL FSD - I can give you his contact info, but be warned - he is a kool-aid drinker.

Can you tell me what happened, either here or by PM? I can probably steer you in the right direction.

Boggie Dog May 5, 2009 12:09 pm


Originally Posted by Trollkiller (Post 11698229)
For those not in the know please explain what a FDS is.


Sorry about that TK, it was FSD.

Long story short, I went through FLL late February. Two things at the checkpoint concerned me. I reported such through the "Got Feedback" venue.

The response received was less than satisfactory so I'm trying to get the info to mail/email the FLL FSD. I think I know the email name format, just need the name to insert.

I would think those positions would be public info.

ND Sol May 5, 2009 12:09 pm

I had a link to a general aviation group that had a list, but it is no longer valid. You would think that would be readily accessible.

Superguy May 5, 2009 12:12 pm


Originally Posted by Trollkiller (Post 11698229)
For those not in the know please explain what a FDS is.

There's a big difference between FDS and an FSD. :D

Trollkiller May 5, 2009 12:18 pm


Originally Posted by Boggie Dog (Post 11698541)
Sorry about that TK, it was FSD.

Long story short, I went through FLL late February. Two things at the checkpoint concerned me. I reported such through the "Got Feedback" venue.

The response received was less than satisfactory so I'm trying to get the info to mail/email the FLL FSD. I think I know the email name format, just need the name to insert.

I would think those positions would be public info.

John T. (Tim) Lewis is the FSD for FLL. Try sending the email to john.lewis t.lewis and tim.lewis

whirledtraveler May 5, 2009 12:25 pm


Originally Posted by Trollkiller (Post 11698609)
John T. (Tim) Lewis is the FSD for FLL. Try sending the email to john.lewis t.lewis and tim.lewis

Gee, I wonder what name(s) he uses on his boarding passes?

Boggie Dog May 5, 2009 12:38 pm


Originally Posted by bocastephen (Post 11698507)
I have an email from the FLL FSD - I can give you his contact info, but be warned - he is a kool-aid drinker.

Can you tell me what happened, either here or by PM? I can probably steer you in the right direction.

I will put it here. If TSA wants to talk to me I want them to know how!
I have attempted to get some attention to this through official channels but so far have been blown off.

Barker was calling for all Video Cameras to be removed from carry-on, regardless of recording media. I questioned him before screening and the 3 stripper after screening. Was told thats how FLL does things. I had a mini-dvd Sony handicam. Info for travelers on TSA website says something else. This issue is minor.

X Ray line attendant took my wife's purse after it exited x ray, when I stopped and approached the table to see what he was doing he put it back. Was he up to no good? I think so. Got Feed-Back responder doesn't seem to care! This is the major issue.

Trollkiller May 5, 2009 12:47 pm


Originally Posted by Boggie Dog (Post 11698763)
I will put it here. If TSA wants to talk to me I want them to know how!
I have attempted to get some attention to this through official channels but so far have been blown off.

Barker was calling for all Video Cameras to be removed from carry-on, regardless of recording media. I questioned him before screening and the 3 stripper after screening. Was told thats how FLL does things. I had a mini-dvd Sony handicam. Info for travelers on TSA website says something else. This issue is minor.

X Ray line attendant took my wife's purse after it exited x ray, when I stopped and approached the table to see what he was doing he put it back. Was he up to no good? I think so. Got Feed-Back responder doesn't seem to care! This is the major issue.

FLL has 3 strippers after screening? Now that would make it worth the drive. :D

If you can't get a response feel free to email gale.rossides tell her the Trollkiller sent you.

LoganTSO May 5, 2009 12:50 pm


Originally Posted by Trollkiller (Post 11698609)
John T. (Tim) Lewis is the FSD for FLL. Try sending the email to john.lewis t.lewis and tim.lewis

It would most likely be [email protected]. Everyone in TSA even down to the TSOs have an email (well, not everyone... since the IT department gets lazy and sometimes fails to create accounts for new hires) but it's a standard syntax for all people:

[email protected]

Allthough... this pertains to FLL, do you mean you want to know all the FSDs for FLL or nationwide?

Because at each airport you have:
the FSD
A Deputy FSD
Assistant FSDs (Screening, Inspections (Aviation or Cargo), Law Enforcement)
Deputy Assistant FSDs (Screening, Inspections (Aviation or Cargo), Law Enforcement)

Other than that, BOS's FSD is George Naccara, [email protected].

My email is.... :p Sorry.

Boggie Dog May 5, 2009 12:55 pm


Originally Posted by Trollkiller (Post 11698824)
FLL has 3 strippers after screening? Now that would make it worth the drive. :D

If you can't get a response feel free to email gale.rossides tell her the Trollkiller sent you.


Well we do have strippers near here. Best time to catch is mid-winter, little late in the year now.

I did mean 3 stripers. Take me out back and just shoot me!

TSORon May 5, 2009 1:06 pm

:cool:

Originally Posted by Boggie Dog (Post 11698883)
Well we do have strippers near here. Best time to catch is mid-winter, little late in the year now.

I did mean 3 stripers. Take me out back and just shoot me!

Not today, this is just to much fun for you to miss out on.:cool:

N830MH May 5, 2009 4:58 pm


Originally Posted by Trollkiller (Post 11698609)
John T. (Tim) Lewis is the FSD for FLL. Try sending the email to john.lewis t.lewis and tim.lewis

Only you can send email him at [email protected]

AngryMiller May 5, 2009 6:20 pm

Anyone know who the current FSD at MPLS is? When I asked a TSO at MPLS about the FSD they didn't have the slightest idea of either who or what a FSD is.

Superguy May 5, 2009 7:45 pm


Originally Posted by AngryMiller (Post 11700906)
Anyone know who the current FSD at MPLS is? When I asked a TSO at MPLS about the FSD they didn't have the slightest idea of either who or what a FSD is.

Methinks you were lied to.

Boggie Dog May 5, 2009 9:21 pm


Originally Posted by N830MH (Post 11700508)
Only you can send email him at [email protected]

I think your right.

I received an email from Tim although it came from one of his underlings so his email address was not used, but he did sign as Tim Lewis.

I'll see what I can do with that info!;)

Boggie Dog May 6, 2009 11:11 am


Originally Posted by bocastephen (Post 11698507)
I have an email from the FLL FSD - I can give you his contact info, but be warned - he is a kool-aid drinker.

Can you tell me what happened, either here or by PM? I can probably steer you in the right direction.

The email I received with Tim Lewis's signature confirms your statement above. He must be mainlining the Kool-Aid!! He is surely under the influence of something!

Basically I was told that TSA has a hard job and to appreciate what they do, even if they are stealing from my wife's purse.

Of course according to "Tim" no TSA employee would ever do such a thing. They only have my safety as a concern, even if the screening is inconvenient.

Trying to address a concern with TSA is like pushing a rope!

I have an image of three monkeys in my brain.

IslandBased May 6, 2009 12:19 pm


Originally Posted by Boggie Dog (Post 11704921)
The email I received with Tim Lewis's signature confirms your statement above. He must be mainlining the Kool-Aid!! He is surely under the influence of something!

Basically I was told that TSA has a hard job and to appreciate what they do, even if they are stealing from my wife's purse.

Of course according to "Tim" no TSA employee would ever do such a thing. They only have my safety as a concern, even if the screening is inconvenient.

Trying to address a concern with TSA is like pushing a rope!

I have an image of three monkeys in my brain.

He probably worked as an insurance adjuster in his previous career.:rolleyes:

bocastephen May 6, 2009 12:38 pm


Originally Posted by Boggie Dog (Post 11704921)
The email I received with Tim Lewis's signature confirms your statement above. He must be mainlining the Kool-Aid!! He is surely under the influence of something!

Basically I was told that TSA has a hard job and to appreciate what they do, even if they are stealing from my wife's purse.

Of course according to "Tim" no TSA employee would ever do such a thing. They only have my safety as a concern, even if the screening is inconvenient.

Trying to address a concern with TSA is like pushing a rope!

I have an image of three monkeys in my brain.

Almost verbatim of the email I received. I emailed the FLL Airport Director, who forwarded my email to the FSD - we both received the same semi-canned response which was completely useless.

Boggie Dog May 6, 2009 12:55 pm


Originally Posted by IslandBased (Post 11705402)
He probably worked as an insurance adjuster in his previous career.:rolleyes:

I pictured more of a guy who sells pre-need burials.:td:

LoganTSO May 6, 2009 9:48 pm


Originally Posted by Boggie Dog (Post 11698541)
Long story short, I went through FLL late February. Two things at the checkpoint concerned me. I reported such through the "Got Feedback" venue.

The response received was less than satisfactory so I'm trying to get the info to mail/email the FLL FSD.

Well, I can't speak for FLL, but Got Feedback/TSA Contact Center issues are addressed up here. I know, I had to write up an incident report because of one because of a incident complaint against me.

That's as much detail as I'm willing to go into, because it's a private incident concerning me and a passenger. And technically, it would be considered SSI.

Boggie Dog May 7, 2009 9:38 am


Originally Posted by LoganTSO (Post 11708484)
Well, I can't speak for FLL, but Got Feedback/TSA Contact Center issues are addressed up here. I know, I had to write up an incident report because of one because of a incident complaint against me.

That's as much detail as I'm willing to go into, because it's a private incident concerning me and a passenger. And technically, it would be considered SSI.


I did receive a response through the Got Feedback submission.

My complaint was misconstrued so I sent a response back stating that I didn't think my complaint was taken the way I stated. I did not hear back at all from that submission. I waited a month, tried again and did not hear back from that effort. I waited an additional month again requesting a response which I did receive.

I again stated that my complaint was taken out of context and the response did not deal with the original complaint. I asked for the FSD contact info and received a response supposedly from the FSD but through the Got Feedback contacts email. So it may in fact just be someone covering his a$$, perhaps not. At any rate I don't think FLL took any action of any kind.

My opinion is that they are covering up a possible problem at a FLL.

Had FLL acted in a timely manner then video tapes or other checkpoint verification means could have been reviewed. Its probably to late to do so now.

I see no point in pushing forward on the issue, TSA doesn't care what happened, won't respond in any manner that indicates they really care and I have no real proof to provide.

Guess I should have let the TSO complete the theft instead of averting the action, then I would have some concrete proof of what happened.

Now all I have is the firm belief that when going through a TSA checkpoint that one better keep careful watch over those who are suppose to protect us!

It's a sad statement but I seem to have more to fear from TSA than real terrorist!

Crazyace718 May 7, 2009 9:56 am


Originally Posted by Boggie Dog (Post 11704921)
The email I received with Tim Lewis's signature confirms your statement above. He must be mainlining the Kool-Aid!! He is surely under the influence of something!

Basically I was told that TSA has a hard job and to appreciate what they do, even if they are stealing from my wife's purse.

Of course according to "Tim" no TSA employee would ever do such a thing. They only have my safety as a concern, even if the screening is inconvenient.

Trying to address a concern with TSA is like pushing a rope!

I have an image of three monkeys in my brain.

What exactly did you expect him to do?

You told him that a TSO might have thought about stealing your wife's purse. Its not like you caught them stealing anything, just holding your wife's property. It would be one thing if property was missing or the TSO's hand was in the bag. Come on you are a grown man, the world doesnt revolve around you. Dear Mr FSD someone might have possibly considered thinking about taking something from my wife's bag. Please launch the helicopters and release the bloodhounds.

You sound like a seasoned flier so I'm sure you noticed that TSOs constantly move items after they exit the X-ray machine. Sometimes open topped bags roll over and the contents spill out. Other times bags pile up and are moved to the tables near the end of the rollers.

You sound disappointed by the FSD's response. What would have been the proper course of action?

Boggie Dog May 7, 2009 10:30 am


Originally Posted by Crazyace718 (Post 11710654)
What exactly did you expect him to do?


You sound disappointed by the FSD's response. What would have been the proper course of action?


Something along the lines of, We share your concerns. We will investigate and update you on what we find, instead of what I got, TSO's have a hard job.........

I already stated I don't have enough to press the issue any farther up the food chain, and in my opinion a possible bad situation will continue.

The end point doesn't serve TSA or myself well.

RadioGirl May 7, 2009 7:35 pm


Originally Posted by Crazyace718 (Post 11710654)
You told him that a TSO might have thought about stealing your wife's purse. Its not like you caught them stealing anything, just holding your wife's property. It would be one thing if property was missing or the TSO's hand was in the bag. Come on you are a grown man, the world doesnt revolve around you. Dear Mr FSD someone might have possibly considered thinking about taking something from my wife's bag. Please launch the helicopters and release the bloodhounds.

But that's exactly the attitude that individual screeners, and perhaps the whole TSA takes with passengers! A passenger has cash that might (or might not) be linked to an illegal activity - it's not like you caught them actually dealing drugs or handing over weapons to OBL - and you tell us you have to notify a LEO. If you don't have to wait until the crime is committed, but can harass people for things that might be preliminary to a crime, why should you escape the same approach.

Why should Boggie Dog have to wait until someone actually steals from his wife's purse before he complains?

Coming through LAX once, the screener picked up my handbag as it came out of the x-ray and walked away, muttering over his shoulder, "gotta run this again." I was already through the WTMD with other pax backing up behind me, and he just walked off with my credit cards, cash, passports, tickets, phone, Palm, camera, jewelry... It is not acceptable for screeners to take people's stuff out of their control and walk away.

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Crazyace718 May 8, 2009 7:53 pm


Originally Posted by RadioGirl (Post 11713743)
But that's exactly the attitude that individual screeners, and perhaps the whole TSA takes with passengers! A passenger has cash that might (or might not) be linked to an illegal activity - it's not like you caught them actually dealing drugs or handing over weapons to OBL - and you tell us you have to notify a LEO. If you don't have to wait until the crime is committed, but can harass people for things that might be preliminary to a crime, why should you escape the same approach.

I was thinking the same thing while I wrote my comment. I'm surprised Boggie didn't bring it up. Ironic isn't it?


Originally Posted by RadioGirl (Post 11713743)
Why should Boggie Dog have to wait until someone actually steals from his wife's purse before he complains?

Is it inevitable that his property will be stolen, if so will it be by that same screener? Is there any real proof that the screener was going to steal his things or has stolen anything in the past?
He is jumping at shadows and basically wasting the time and resources of people up the ladder. Why chase hypothetical thefts when they can go after screeners who have actually been caught stealing?
Today I saw a post about someone who had an engagement ring stolen from their luggage. Should Boggie's situation should have equal priority to those dealing with actual thefts?


Originally Posted by RadioGirl (Post 11713743)
Coming through LAX once, the screener picked up my handbag as it came out of the x-ray and walked away, muttering over his shoulder, "gotta run this again." I was already through the WTMD with other pax backing up behind me, and he just walked off with my credit cards, cash, passports, tickets, phone, Palm, camera, jewelry... It is not acceptable for screeners to take people's stuff out of their control and walk away.

Thats absolutely true and if something happened to be missing from your bag accusing the TSO of theft would be warranted. If not you could walk up to the supervisor and inform him that the screener is breaking procedure.

Boggie however was not missing any property. He wants the FSD to investigate a TSO on a crime that never occurred but might have happened in some alternate reality.

Lets imagine that you posted "I hate Kipp Hawley" on this forum. Somewhere down the line you run into Kip near a flight of stairs and walk past him. Later someone says " That's RadioGirl she doesn't like Kipp. She was going to push him down the stairs but didnt because I was there. I know she thought about it though, she ought to be locked up".

Oh when you get some time check out the movie Minority Report. ^

Boggie Dog May 8, 2009 8:34 pm


Originally Posted by Crazyace718 (Post 11719497)
I was thinking the same thing while I wrote my comment. I'm surprised Boggie didn't bring it up. Ironic isn't it?



Is it inevitable that his property will be stolen, if so will it be by that same screener? Is there any real proof that the screener was going to steal his things or has stolen anything in the past?
He is jumping at shadows and basically wasting the time and resources of people up the ladder. Why chase hypothetical thefts when they can go after screeners who have actually been caught stealing?
Today I saw a post about someone who had an engagement ring stolen from their luggage. Should Boggie's situation should have equal priority to those dealing with actual thefts?



Thats absolutely true and if something happened to be missing from your bag accusing the TSO of theft would be warranted. If not you could walk up to the supervisor and inform him that the screener is breaking procedure.

Boggie however was not missing any property. He wants the FSD to investigate a TSO on a crime that never occurred but might have happened in some alternate reality.

Lets imagine that you posted "I hate Kipp Hawley" on this forum. Somewhere down the line you run into Kip near a flight of stairs and walk past him. Later someone says " That's RadioGirl she doesn't like Kipp. She was going to push him down the stairs but didnt because I was there. I know she thought about it though, she ought to be locked up".

Oh when you get some time check out the movie Minority Report. ^


Not to get in a contest of wills here but the action I observed ended when I stopped, turned and approached the screener.

It is my firm opinion that something was up.

I am exposed to federal inmates daily and one gains some respect for a persons actions even if they may seem innocent. I am also observant and aware of what is going on around me.

Now, as a good citizen I felt the right thing to do was to notify the proper people. I did this through the TSA "Got Feedback" method and I really felt my concern was round-filed. Attempted follow-up did not even get a response over the course of a couple of months until I asked for the FSD contact information.


I don't think proof of a theft is needed when letting the chain of command know that a possible problem exist. It is the lack of concern on the part of these officials that disturbs me more than what happened at the checkpoint. Regardless I would hope that some internal action was taken to at least observe this person covertly. And that was the bottom line, just a warning.

So for my part this is where it ends.

Sadly someone may transit this same airport and if my concerns are correct may depart with property missing. They will have no idea of how it happened.

And the show goes on.

RadioGirl May 8, 2009 10:25 pm


Originally Posted by Crazyace718 (Post 11719497)
Is it inevitable that his property will be stolen, if so will it be by that same screener? Is there any real proof that the screener was going to steal his things or has stolen anything in the past?

No, Boggie Dog's property might be stolen next week at another airport where sheeple were too scared to say anything. And this screener might steal someone else's stuff if Boggie Dog doesn't speak up.

If the supervisor is doing his job honestly (and there's a number of stories here about supervisors who simply supported the bad behavior of their screeners), it should be up to him. If the screener in question has an exemplary record and this is a one-off complaint, the supe can just shrug it off. If the screener is an honest guy but a bit gung-ho, the supe should remind him not to take bags away without the passenger being able to see what's going on. But if this is the third complaint this week, and other people have accused that screener of taking something but it couldn't be proved, the supe might want to remind the screener of the right process and keep a closer eye on him.

Think of it as "if you see something, say something." :p

Originally Posted by Crazyace718 (Post 11719497)
He is jumping at shadows and basically wasting the time and resources of people up the ladder. Why chase hypothetical thefts when they can go after screeners who have actually been caught stealing?

The guy actually picked up the bag. It's a bit beyond "hypothetical" and moving towards "stopped in the act." And there's no (zero, none, zip, nada) evidence that TSA goes after screeners who have actually been caught stealing, mostly because TSA denies that screeners ever steal anything, so there's not much risk of slowing down those investigations.

Originally Posted by Crazyace718 (Post 11719497)
Today I saw a post about someone who had an engagement ring stolen from their luggage. Should Boggie's situation should have equal priority to those dealing with actual thefts?

Please let us know what, other than TSORon suggesting they probably left it at home, :rolleyes: TSA is doing about that actual theft. Hint: trying blaming the baggage handlers. :td:

Originally Posted by Crazyace718 (Post 11719497)
Thats absolutely true and if something happened to be missing from your bag accusing the TSO of theft would be warranted. If not you could walk up to the supervisor and inform him that the screener is breaking procedure.

And when the supe says, "How can you prove you had a camera in there? You probably left it at home or put it in your checked bag. Please move along, you're holding up the line." what do you suggest? For heaven's sake, the whole attitude of TSA is to act on the slightest hint of anything to prevent planes going down, but when it comes to theft from bags, you suggest we don't do anything until it actually happens and then try to get someone to admit to it? Why not let me through with my ticking Acme time-bomb and then, if the plane goes down, you can charge me with something?

Originally Posted by Crazyace718 (Post 11719497)
Lets imagine that you posted "I hate Kipp Hawley" on this forum.

Not much of a stretch.

Originally Posted by Crazyace718 (Post 11719497)
Somewhere down the line you run into Kip near a flight of stairs and walk past him. Later someone says " That's RadioGirl she doesn't like Kipp. She was going to push him down the stairs but didnt because I was there. I know she thought about it though, she ought to be locked up".

The screener actually picked up Boggie Dog's wife's bag. It moved past "thought about it" at that point. I'm pretty sure that if you came in, saw me with my hands on Kip's back and starting to push, and I stopped when I saw you, you'd go tell someone about it. And I haven't seen Boggie Dog calling for the guy to be locked up, just asking someone to look into it.

Originally Posted by Crazyace718 (Post 11719497)
Oh when you get some time check out the movie Minority Report. ^

Seen it. Made me think of BDOs. And screeners who think they are.


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