This is why I avoid flying whenever I can.

While that may be true, I have the facts to back my belief’s. So far as I can see you do not.

Actually, I’m not. If they had the foresight to have in place policies and procedures that took into account the possibility that aircraft could be used as WMD’s, 9/11 most likely would never have happened. They had all the information they needed, they just choose to not act upon it. Personally, I believe it was a case of profits over safety. Hijackings had been going on for nearly 40 years, and they didn’t put the safety of their customers before their profits.

No, not lax security. They did as they were trained and instructed. So did the flight crew. It’s the policy makers that failed. They had reports that gave them the information that a 9/11 attack was a possible scenario, yet they did not take the threat seriously, and close to 3000 people died because of it. Fact.

TSA is closing those loopholes. One at a time, and somewhat slowly to be sure, but closing they are. That is significant enough justification for the continuance of the TSA. Not enough for you and some others I understand, but that’s not my concern.

Under-attended Broadway plays are at the heart of TSA policy?:rolleyes::rolleyes:

From what I can see, all you have posted is your opinions. You've made a numnber of posts about the law, but you haven't provided a single citation to anything other than Title 49, which is about as useful as citing the entire Constitution.

Yes, you are, because you are missing the point. The 9/11 hijackings were successful because the hijackers knew that once on board the aircraft, they would not be resisted. That was the policy and procedure in place, NOT lax gate security.

Ron, just how many hijackings before 9/11 ended with the complete loss of life of all passengers and crew? Almost none. You can claim it was profits all you want, but when almost every hijacking was resolved without significant loss of life, are you seriously going to maintain that the airlines should have had policies in place before 9/11 to resist? Based on what information?

So provide some evidence to support your position.

Again, you simply don't get it. The loophole that allowed the 9/11hijackings to take place was closed by the airlines and FAA. NOT TSA.

This one's for you, Ron


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBeUG...rom=PL&index=1

If it's a threat to one, it's a threat to all. America is not unique in being a terrorist target, nor are such methods country specific. A shoe bomb could bring down a plane just as easily in Korea, Japan, UK, Israel, China, or any other nation as it could in the US. If you think America is unique in facing terrorist threats, you're very myopic in your view.

It was a threat long before 9/11, yet it was a threat never acted upon by any country much less the USA.

America has never been unique in that respect, but among the major nations of the planet terrorists think the most highly of successful attacks against the USA (right after Israel). Few though they have actually been, successful attacks against the mainland USA remain the largest concern to our nations citizens. Big and spectacular seems to be what the terrorists want, no one pays attention to the small and silent one’s.

For someone to have a successful terrorist attack they must make the front page of the newspaper or else it won't get the recognition the terrorists demand. Pretty simple if you look at terrorism from the standpoint of return on investment (ROI). 9/11 was good from the terrorist standpoint because it had a high ROI. Burning a couple cars in a large city probably wouldn't even make the front page.

Kinda reinforces the premise that TSA is a reactive agency. It actually has to happen and embarass someone before something's acted upon?

Not only that, but big and spectacular reactions by the government are what terrorists want. Kinda like the gov't creating DHS and TSA and subsequent restrictions that have arguably reduced freedom. I think that's really what they're after. 9/11 was merely an effective tactic to get the government to do what they wanted, and they played the gov't like a fiddle.

^^

Sad, but very true.:(

Ron and his fellow true believers simply don't realize that every time Bin Laden and his buddies sees TSA on the tube, they likely pat each other on the back and say "look what we accomplished!"

Recent studies using MRI have revealed substantially different brain patterns in people with "liberal" and "conservative" outlooks. So, it may be hardwired. :eek:

Michael Savage was right, Liberalism Is a Mental Disorder.

No, you have it absolutely wrong- conservatism is a mental disorder, Mr. CVS.:rolleyes:

You can't take it with you, so why not share...

You can have it as soon as I am done with it.