"Data Mining" and "Behavior Detection" duboius science
Oct 7, 2008 | 4:42 pm
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"Data Mining" and "Behavior Detection" duboius science
The National Research Council say data mining and behavior detection are not useful in detecting terrorists.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/10/07/ter...ior/index.html
And TSA agrees!
A TSA spokesman said Tuesday the report "is not any kind of indictment of our program," adding that the TSA's behavior-detection officers do not claim to be adept at finding people with terrorist intent.
Instead, spokesman Christopher White said, the officers look for people exhibiting signs of stress, fear or deception, and focus on those people for further investigation.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/10/07/ter...ior/index.html
And TSA agrees!
A TSA spokesman said Tuesday the report "is not any kind of indictment of our program," adding that the TSA's behavior-detection officers do not claim to be adept at finding people with terrorist intent.
Instead, spokesman Christopher White said, the officers look for people exhibiting signs of stress, fear or deception, and focus on those people for further investigation.
Oct 7, 2008 | 4:50 pm
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The National Research Council say data mining and behavior detection are not useful in detecting terrorists.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/10/07/ter...ior/index.html
And TSA agrees!
A TSA spokesman said Tuesday the report "is not any kind of indictment of our program," adding that the TSA's behavior-detection officers do not claim to be adept at finding people with terrorist intent.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/10/07/ter...ior/index.html
And TSA agrees!
A TSA spokesman said Tuesday the report "is not any kind of indictment of our program," adding that the TSA's behavior-detection officers do not claim to be adept at finding people with terrorist intent.
Instead, spokesman Christopher White said, the officers look for people exhibiting signs of stress, fear or deception, and focus on those people for further harassment.
Oct 7, 2008 | 4:52 pm
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keep wasting my tax dollars tsa
A TSA spokesman said Tuesday the report "is not any kind of indictment of our program," adding that the TSA's behavior-detection officers do not claim to be adept at finding people with terrorist intent.
Oct 7, 2008 | 8:48 pm
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The TSA is just pathetic. More and more experts criticize their expensive actions as worthless and even potentially harmful, yet they manage to continue to defend them somehow, someway. Must be the Chewbacca defense.
The TSA is just pathetic. More and more experts criticize their expensive actions as worthless and even potentially harmful, yet they manage to continue to defend them somehow, someway. Must be the Chewbacca defense.
Oct 7, 2008 | 9:11 pm
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"We are in, maybe not agreement [with the National Research Council], but we are on the same wavelength," White said.
Love the picture with the article, too. I must be getting old; those BDOs look like children. And why are they looking for terrorists at baggage claim - isn't that a bit late?
Oct 7, 2008 | 10:46 pm
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Oct 8, 2008 | 1:53 am
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The article "states some police departments"? Try several hundreds. This isn't new. Several books have been published on this and most are in agreement that deception cannot be accurately detected, but someone exhibiting high levels of stress is a person of interest. 99% of passengers will probably never have a conversation with a BDO. Interesting article but most scientists cannot agree on what causes the common cold.
Oct 8, 2008 | 2:10 am
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The article "states some police departments"? Try several hundreds. This isn't new. Several books have been published on this and most are in agreement that deception cannot be accurately detected, but someone exhibiting high levels of stress is a person of interest. 99% of passengers will probably never have a conversation with a BDO. Interesting article but most scientists cannot agree on what causes the common cold.
Oct 8, 2008 | 2:26 am
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The article "states some police departments"? Try several hundreds. This isn't new. Several books have been published on this and most are in agreement that deception cannot be accurately detected, but someone exhibiting high levels of stress is a person of interest. 99% of passengers will probably never have a conversation with a BDO. Interesting article but most scientists cannot agree on what causes the common cold.
Oct 8, 2008 | 6:13 am
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But if indeed TSA's doesn't think its BDOs are adept at finding people with terrorist intent, then by all means let's get rid of them.
Oct 8, 2008 | 6:24 am
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perhaps this topic is best answered by the corporate reps on the board. a lot of them do data mining on this forum.
as for security, there is zero value in this behaviour detection. For airport that want to promote safety, this is a marketing gimmick. If you don't like it, you have to speak to the respective governors with evidence that there is over 50% of voters who do not wish to pay for such a service.
as for security, there is zero value in this behaviour detection. For airport that want to promote safety, this is a marketing gimmick. If you don't like it, you have to speak to the respective governors with evidence that there is over 50% of voters who do not wish to pay for such a service.
Oct 8, 2008 | 6:39 am
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The article "states some police departments"? Try several hundreds. This isn't new. Several books have been published on this and most are in agreement that deception cannot be accurately detected, but someone exhibiting high levels of stress is a person of interest. 99% of passengers will probably never have a conversation with a BDO. Interesting article but most scientists cannot agree on what causes the common cold.
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Oct 8, 2008 | 7:34 am
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Instead, spokesman Christopher White said, the officers look for people exhibiting signs of stress, fear or deception, and focus on those people for further investigation.
That's what's terribly wrong. I don't know about anyone else, but I want real police work done by real police within the boundaries of the U.S. and state Constitutions.
Oct 8, 2008 | 10:38 am
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Data mining works quite well when you are dealing with large numbers of people - so you know to put 6 packs of beer next to nappies as you know that new dads out shopping tend tol put a "little extra" in their trolleys - but trying to use it to find a needle in a haystack is just plain stupid