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law dawg Nov 20, 2007 10:51 am


Originally Posted by iCorpRoadie (Post 8762170)
Take a look at my previous posts. Started out with them pre-boarding WAY before the crew even got to the gate, then spirals down from there.

I understand that they have to introduce themselves to the crew and all prior to passengers getting on board, but still, there has to be a better way, and why do they need 4 seats on an INTL flight??? come on, they only need two, one in front and one in the back of the plane. I know that 10,000 tax write off for the airline per seat but geeshe...

Tell the airlines that there has to be a better way. They're the ones insisting FAMs do it that way.

As for the numbers, you must be joking. It would be incredibly difficult for one person to handle a hijacking alone, and if they were spread apart they couldn't support one another. The distance is too great.

bdschobel Nov 20, 2007 11:02 am


Originally Posted by iCorpRoadie (Post 8762170)
...I know that 10,000 tax write off for the airline per seat but geeshe...

This is an often-repeated myth. The airlines get no tax break -- or any other kind of break -- for carrying FAMs. They have complained endlessly about this to the Congress.

Bruce

bdschobel Nov 20, 2007 11:02 am


Originally Posted by law dawg (Post 8761796)
...If you take a job, take it seriously. Most campus cops don't expect a Columbine or a Virginia Tech, but it will happen again and if it does they should be thinking, "Not on my watch." Let's look at another stat - there hasn't been a death in the USA in a school by fire in the last quarter of a century, yet should be not take fire hazards seriously? Should teachers not take fire drills seriously? Should custodians not take checking fire equipment seriously? I mean, since it's statistically very, very unlikely to happen?

Fair enough.

Bruce

PhlyingRPh Nov 20, 2007 11:12 am


Originally Posted by law dawg (Post 8761057)
Some, like the preboard, are airline policies that FAMs hate but must abide by for the nonce.

Are you sure it's an airline requirement? What would be the logic for preboarding FAMs?

law dawg Nov 20, 2007 11:14 am


Originally Posted by PhlyingRPh (Post 8762418)
Are you sure it's an airline requirement? What would be the logic for preboarding FAMs?

Pilots want to see them and yes, I am sure it's an airline requirement. That policy existed waaaay before 9/11 and the existence of the TSA.

Emma65 Nov 20, 2007 6:52 pm


Originally Posted by iCorpRoadie (Post 8762170)
I understand that they have to introduce themselves to the crew and all prior to passengers getting on board, but still, there has to be a better way, and why do they need 4 seats on an INTL flight??? come on, they only need two, one in front and one in the back of the plane. I know that 10,000 tax write off for the airline per seat but geeshe...

Are you saying there is 2 per flight? On what kind of plane? How many passengers?

A club in UK need 1 security officer per 100 people + one on the door (if less than 100. So at 101, they'd need 2 anyway. at 201 - 3, 301-4 and so on.

A flight can take more than 400 and they put 2 FAMs on it?

I'm speechless!

Yaatri Nov 20, 2007 7:12 pm


Originally Posted by etch5895 (Post 8759856)
You have the worst luck...

Since the US automatically rescreens all passengers after clearing customs/immigration for onward flights, it makes no sense to do the 'extra' security for US bound flights.

You mean it was all random? I seriously doubt it.


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