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My point is that the people who voted for all of this (anything in the name of security, various levels of real or supposed security at the airport, etc.) did so knowing what they wanted from their elected officials. So when people gripe about CBP officers fingerprinting everyone and playing silly games, just remember who has allowed and is allowing it to happen.
But this is drifting off to OMNI territory. And this could have all been prevented, I think, with a simple phone call to the border station. On the bright side, maybe the exposure that this event has gotten will cause CBP to relook at their SOPs. Maybe this will be the catalyst for some common sense changes and agreements between the US and Canada for their emergency services. I mean, the Canadian military is serving alongside the US military inside NORAD and all over the US; why can't we play nicely when it comes to more basic community services? It all boils down to poor communication on several levels. |
Originally Posted by InIndiana
(Post 8733332)
I imagine that space on a fire truck is very limited and everything has a purpose
Perhaps instead of bashing the border agents for doing their job, you should hold some criticism for the towns in northern Vermont for not having enough fire staff to handle their own local events. It might be small, but it isn't a poor state. |
Originally Posted by thegeneral
(Post 8745670)
I imaging that the on board reservoir on a fire truck could be used to easily smuggle several tons of coke, heroin, etc, into the United States. It's not as if there drug trade in Canada is run out of nearby Montreal or anything. I guess you didn't realize that.
Perhaps instead of bashing the border agents for doing their job, you should hold some criticism for the towns in northern Vermont for not having enough fire staff to handle their own local events. It might be small, but it isn't a poor state. |
In a related vein:
Ambulance with heart attack victim forced to wait at U.S. Customs WINDSOR, Ont. -- An ambulance rushing a heart attack victim to Detroit from a Windsor hospital ill-equipped to perform life-saving surgery was stopped for secondary inspection Monday by United States Customs, despite the fact it carried a man fighting for his life. Rick Laporte, 49 -who twice had been brought back to life with defibrillators -was being rushed across the border when a U.S. border guard ignored protocol at the Detroit portion of the tunnel and forced the ambulance - with sirens and lights flashing - to pull over. (...) Amlin said the ambulance, according to well-established protocol, received a police escort to the tunnel entrance with several intersections blocked off to help speed the trip. Tunnel traffic was shut down and, after the ambulance arrived at the border crossing, a tunnel company pickup truck with flashing lights, led it to a designated U.S. Customs lane where it was supposed to be waved through. "We have a system set up. We are to be pre-cleared and no problems," Amlin said. |
[QUOTE=thegeneral;8745670]I imaging that the on board reservoir on a fire truck could be used to easily smuggle several tons of coke, heroin, etc, into the United States. It's not as if there drug trade in Canada is run out of nearby Montreal or anything. I guess you didn't realize that. [QUOTE]
And guess where a lot of it comes from? Perhaps instead of bashing the border agents for doing their job, you should hold some criticism for the towns in northern Vermont for not having enough fire staff to handle their own local events. It might be small, but it isn't a poor state. |
Originally Posted by wsommerv
(Post 8745809)
A Canadian, with Michael Moore - trumpeting universal health care, must come to the United States for a life-saving procedure. |
Originally Posted by vassilipan
(Post 8745845)
A Canadian, with Michael Moore - trumpeting universal health care, must come to the United States for a life-saving procedure. The protocol that is supposed to be in place at the tunnel means that there is no need for a multi-million dollar facility in Windsor. |
Originally Posted by HeHateY
(Post 8746890)
Windsor is a small city. They have a facility for such a procedure (angioplasty) in London Ontario...(2 hours away)...and in Detroit, 5 minutes away.
The protocol that is supposed to be in place at the tunnel means that there is no need for a multi-million dollar facility in Windsor. |
Originally Posted by HeHateY
(Post 8746890)
Windsor is a small city. They have a facility for such a procedure (angioplasty) in London Ontario...(2 hours away)...and in Detroit, 5 minutes away.
The protocol that is supposed to be in place at the tunnel means that there is no need for a multi-million dollar facility in Windsor. Angioplasty is not exactly that rare a procedure. |
Originally Posted by thegeneral
(Post 8745670)
I imaging that the on board reservoir on a fire truck could be used to easily smuggle several tons of coke, heroin, etc, into the United States. It's not as if there drug trade in Canada is run out of nearby Montreal or anything. I guess you didn't realize that.
Perhaps instead of bashing the border agents for doing their job, you should hold some criticism for the towns in northern Vermont for not having enough fire staff to handle their own local events. It might be small, but it isn't a poor state. |
Originally Posted by thegeneral
(Post 8745670)
Perhaps instead of bashing the border agents for doing their job, you should hold some criticism for the towns in northern Vermont for not having enough fire staff to handle their own local events. It might be small, but it isn't a poor state.
For the suggestion that the CBP office should send a vehicle to shadow them instead of stopping them at the border: If this is a small border checkpoint, I doubt they would have the manpower to cut an officer or two loose to watch a firetruck for x number of hours. I think the proper use of the telephone with an agreed upon SOP would have kept this from happening. Maybe now it will be enacted. |
Think of the children
[QUOTE=thegeneral;8745670]I imaging that the on board reservoir on a fire truck could be used to easily smuggle several tons of coke, heroin, etc, into the United States. QUOTE]
I imagine.... /sarcasm think of all the illegal Mexican immigrants we could put in there to steel yer jobs. OMG what if we put gas in the tank then we could spray that on the fire? We could bring some guns. Whoops hold it most of the illegal guns crossing the boarder come into Canada from the States.\ sarcasm In the end i guess it's easier to blame Canada than yourselves. |
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