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bzbdavid Oct 27, 2007 3:32 pm

Pick A Card, Any Card
 
NY Gives You a Choice!

Crap, now to decide which ID is best for you? I guess that you can choose between:
A. Complete loss of civil liberties and privacy - soon to have bar codes tattooed on the back of your neck
B. Just a "flesh wound" of your civil liberties, state's rights, etc
C. Being classified as an illegal immigrant in my own county.
Great choices!!!

According to the article, Choice A gets you REAL ID on steroids.... wow... gotta love THAT option!

I guess we threw out State's Rights with the Constitution.... That also explains a bit about why Governor Terminator could not activate HIS (yes, Virginia, the Guard - under Title XXXII - works at the behest of the Governor. Title X should only be invoked outside of the US...but I digress) state's national guard.

Somebody wake me up when America returns!

Spiff Oct 27, 2007 3:38 pm

I'm very disappointed to hear that NY didn't just give DHS the finger and produce their own IDs. :(

Xyzzy Oct 27, 2007 6:03 pm

Wow -- I'm disappointed. I thought that finally we had found a politician (a governor, no less) who understood that a license to drive is not the same as proof of citizenship. That simple idea seems to be lost on the masses, just like ID is not security. <sigh>

essxjay Oct 27, 2007 7:08 pm

Boooooooooooo, New York!

birdstrike Oct 27, 2007 7:25 pm


Originally Posted by bzbdavid (Post 8631337)
That also explains a bit about why Governor Terminator

I'm sorry, only California has the real Governor Terminator. Yours must be an impostor.

bzbdavid Oct 27, 2007 7:28 pm


Originally Posted by birdstrike (Post 8632052)
I'm sorry, only California has the real Governor Terminator. Yours must be an impostor.

I was talking about Scwazzenneeggerrrehafjsalkf;las or however you spell it.

He was hampered in calling the California National Guard - a group HE controls - up for service during the fires... they were on border picket duty for W....

States Rights? What States Rights? Went the way of the Constitution......

This is only related as an example... the D/L is also a state issued and regulated item... no Federal interference should be needed... that is... if they read the Constitution....

Hvr Oct 28, 2007 12:53 am

So how long until we all get chipped and scanned where ever we go? A visual screen held near you could be the checking system of the future.

No chip? Then you will be chipped immediately and put on a watch list forever.:mad:

bzbdewd Oct 30, 2007 7:22 pm


Originally Posted by Hvr (Post 8632858)
So how long until we all get chipped and scanned where ever we go? A visual screen held near you could be the checking system of the future.

No chip? Then you will be chipped immediately and put on a watch list forever.:mad:

Well we aren't chipped (yet) but we are scanned a whole lot. More and more cameras going up all over these days. Smile you're on candid camera...:rolleyes:

gj83 Oct 30, 2007 10:08 pm

I guess the NY driver licenses weren't expensive enough before. I guess this will push them over the $100 mark and i assume it would still be 4 years.

If my company ever makes me move back to that forsaken state I think I'll just keep my SC license since it is good long enough that i probably wouldn't be in NY anymore when it expires.

Spiff Oct 31, 2007 11:39 am


Originally Posted by gj83 (Post 8649813)
I guess the NY driver licenses weren't expensive enough before. I guess this will push them over the $100 mark and i assume it would still be 4 years.

If my company ever makes me move back to that forsaken state I think I'll just keep my SC license since it is good long enough that i probably wouldn't be in NY anymore when it expires.

"Why have you not updated your license, Comrade? Are you trying to hide something from us? Or not contribute to the State according to your ability? Off to the Gulag with you!"

DevilDog438 Oct 31, 2007 11:43 am


Originally Posted by Spiff (Post 8652846)
"Why have you not updated your license, Comrade? Are you trying to hide something from us? Or not contribute to the State according to your ability? Off to the Gulag with you!"

While I understand Spiff is being sarcastic, this is a potential situation. Okay, maybe not the Gulag. However, I think most States have a law on the books that says you have x number of days to get a State D/L following moving. If you officially change your residence, you may well get in trouble for not having the appropriate D/L or ID (if a non-D/L ID is required in the State).

Doppy Oct 31, 2007 11:55 am


Originally Posted by gj83 (Post 8649813)
I guess the NY driver licenses weren't expensive enough before. I guess this will push them over the $100 mark and i assume it would still be 4 years.

If my company ever makes me move back to that forsaken state I think I'll just keep my SC license since it is good long enough that i probably wouldn't be in NY anymore when it expires.

NY licenses are good for 8 years.

Real ID is a federal law; your state will undoubtedly jump onboard soon enough.

gj83 Oct 31, 2007 11:57 am


Originally Posted by Doppy (Post 8652986)
NY licenses are good for 8 years.

Real ID is a federal law; your state will undoubtedly jump onboard soon enough.

Not the one I just got rid of. $45 for 4 years and I had it for a whopping 11 months b/c I do follow the rules and change it all over.


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