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MilesDependent Oct 21, 07 10:58 pm

Backscatter (aka nude x-ray)
 
Had my first experience with the backscatter x-ray at Moscow DME airport last week. I had no idea they had the technology over there. It operates in just the international part. Domestically, you have the option of the x-ray or a normal metal detector and pat-down.

The people looking at the x-ray (all women in their late 20s) are behind a closed desk and cannot easily see the people as they pass through. But passers-by can see what is going on if they linger.

I stood there and watched the results for a few minutes - and all I can say is OH MY WORD. The images leave absolutely nothing to the imagination - and I do mean nothing. After a few minutes of watching this we were abused by the security and ordered to move on. Pity, as it was actually quite interesting :D

I presume what they have in Russia is the "uncensored" version, whereas the one they are looking at installing in the USA is the "censored" version.

HeHateY Oct 22, 07 2:12 am


Originally Posted by MilesDependent (Post 8599652)
I presume what they have in Russia is the "uncensored" version, whereas the one they are looking at installing in the USA is the "censored" version.

Which means that the uncensored version is held by all of these machine in a format that can be saved for future viewing.

Pedophiles the world over will delight in Edmund Summers Hawley's stupidity.

mmartin4600 Oct 22, 07 8:34 am


Originally Posted by HeHateY (Post 8600150)
Which means that the uncensored version is held by all of these machine in a format that can be saved for future viewing.

Pedophiles the world over will delight in Edmund Summers Hawley's stupidity.

The article I read about the body scan machines say the pictures are "completely and instantly" deleted.

Global_Hi_Flyer Oct 22, 07 8:53 am


Originally Posted by mmartin4600 (Post 8601033)
The article I read about the body scan machines say the pictures are "completely and instantly" deleted.

I don't believe that for a New York Second.

They have to have some way to get the image out and use it for prosecutorial purposes. And for auditing purposes. And for testing the system. And to justify the terminal dump that will happen when they think they miss something.

Xyzzy Oct 22, 07 8:53 am

Ya know -- every time I read about this technology I think about this movie. :p :p :p

bzbdewd Oct 22, 07 9:07 am


Originally Posted by Global_Hi_Flyer (Post 8601123)
I don't believe that for a New York Second.

They have to have some way to get the image out and use it for prosecutorial purposes. And for auditing purposes. And for testing the system. And to justify the terminal dump that will happen when they think they miss something.

Oh good point! You know..... anything to keep us SAFE .... :rolleyes:

GUWonder Oct 22, 07 9:15 am


Originally Posted by bzbdewd (Post 8601202)
Oh good point! You know..... anything to keep us SAFE .... :rolleyes:

... anything to keep "us" feeling safe.

Pit Oct 22, 07 9:22 am

Does this mean I can finally buy a pair of those X-ray glasses in the back of Boy's Life? :cool:

Flaflyer Oct 22, 07 12:23 pm

Believe that, I have some swampland for you
 

Originally Posted by mmartin4600 (Post 8601033)
The article I read about the body scan machines say the pictures are "completely and instantly" deleted.

The Government of the United States says "the pictures are "completely and instantly" deleted."

The Government of the United States says "Safety precautions are in place which make it IMPOSSIBLE to accidentally fly live nuclear missiles across the US without anyone knowing about it."

A government that can lose six atomic bombs can be trusted to NEVER EVER EVER UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES lose a single .jpg file?

Yea. Right.

Lurker1999 Oct 22, 07 9:32 pm


Originally Posted by mmartin4600 (Post 8601033)
The article I read about the body scan machines say the pictures are "completely and instantly" deleted.

Kinda like "deleting" a file on a Windows based system "deletes" it, right?

CessnaJock Oct 22, 07 10:13 pm

Anybody got a spec sheet on one of these machines?
 
A quick horseback calculation based on disk storage space would yield a pretty good guess of how many images they are expected to preserve.

N830MH Oct 22, 07 10:31 pm


Originally Posted by mmartin4600 (Post 8601033)
The article I read about the body scan machines say the pictures are "completely and instantly" deleted.

Oh yes, Indeed. I can actually see new backscatter machines. Do you know which terminal is that in PHX? Is that even terminal 2 or 4? :confused: I don't know which checkpoint is that at terminal 4? I think it is C or D concourse. Can you guys find out which specific terminal is already installed new backscatter machines.


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