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Originally Posted by FliesWay2Much
(Post 8352617)
...and Chertoff will claim that this bust was his "gut feel"???
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Originally Posted by FliesWay2Much
(Post 8352617)
No, but maybe Kippie will put all bleached blondes on the no-fly list?
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Originally Posted by mmartin4600
(Post 8352409)
Since TSO’s do not have arrest authority how can they “bust” anyone?
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I'm glad the Germans caught these guys.
It did bug me in the story that they said something to the effect of "there was no threat to the homeland." There is no "homeland" Comrade. :td: I had to get a chuckle out of the statement that US analysts were "working the case real hard." Reminds me of the Onion's "very special forces" article. I do wonder what concentration the peroxide was. I know drug store grade peroxide is pretty week and it takes concentrations of around 30% or so for a really big explosion. Was it higher concentration, or were they concentrating it somehow from regular peroxide? How much you wanna bet peroxide's gonna be banned, though? :rolleyes: |
Originally Posted by Superguy
(Post 8352710)
I'm glad the Germans caught these guys.
It did bug me in the story that they said something to the effect of "there was no threat to the homeland." There is no "homeland" Comrade. :td: I had to get a chuckle out of the statement that US analysts were "working the case real hard." Reminds me of the Onion's "very special forces" article. I do wonder what concentration the peroxide was. I know drug store grade peroxide is pretty week and it takes concentrations of around 30% or so for a really big explosion. Was it higher concentration, or were they concentrating it somehow from regular peroxide? How much you wanna bet peroxide's gonna be banned, though? :rolleyes: |
Originally Posted by mmartin4600
(Post 8352409)
Since TSO’s do not have arrest authority how can they “bust” anyone? Or are we starting the TSA bashing early?
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Originally Posted by GUWonder
(Post 8353175)
Did you ignore that this incident happened outside the US? TSA doesn't have airport screeners doing airport screening in Germany or stopping terrorists in Germany. The point is that yet again airport screeners didn't catch terrorists, other types of organizations do.
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Originally Posted by Superguy
(Post 8352710)
I'm glad the Germans caught these guys.
It did bug me in the story that they said something to the effect of "there was no threat to the homeland." There is no "homeland" Comrade. :td: I had to get a chuckle out of the statement that US analysts were "working the case real hard." Reminds me of the Onion's "very special forces" article. I do wonder what concentration the peroxide was. I know drug store grade peroxide is pretty week and it takes concentrations of around 30% or so for a really big explosion. Was it higher concentration, or were they concentrating it somehow from regular peroxide? How much you wanna bet peroxide's gonna be banned, though? :rolleyes: It actually already is. We use a new test that checks specifically for peroxide. We open the container, place a test strip above the opening and if it detects the vapor of peroxide, it doesn't fly in a carry-on. |
Originally Posted by FliesWay2Much
(Post 8352617)
No, but maybe Kippie will put all bleached blondes on the no-fly list?
What screening process will the TSA use to determine who is really "bleached blondes"?:p |
Originally Posted by PHLJJS
(Post 8353471)
It actually already is. We use a new test that checks specifically for peroxide. We open the container, place a test strip above the opening and if it detects the vapor of peroxide, it doesn't fly in a carry-on.
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Originally Posted by CPT Trips
(Post 8353018)
The containers that the German's displayed to the press were 35% . . . that, with the correct "other stuff," could make a big boom!
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Originally Posted by ND Sol
(Post 8352690)
I think that the TSA would consider it a "bust" on their terms. See, for example, this press release.
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Originally Posted by PHLJJS
(Post 8353471)
It actually already is. We use a new test that checks specifically for peroxide. We open the container, place a test strip above the opening and if it detects the vapor of peroxide, it doesn't fly in a carry-on.
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Personally I would be a lot more concerned if the "terrorists" had 500 kilos of fertilizer. Or does the cost of fuel in Europe make that impractical?
I can't quite image 3 guys who are unemployed being able to synthesize much of anything beyond rum-and-coke. |
Originally Posted by docmonkey
(Post 8353552)
Do you do this test to every container? If not, what's the point?
But no...why bother doing the smart thing when there are so many dumb decisions to make. If there is a legitimate reason why the TSA didn't buy the very affordable no-sample-prep spectrum analyzers, then this data should be public knowledge and freely available. They must be held accountable for their decision-making. |
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