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Wally Bird Apr 30, 2007 10:28 am

Liquid idoicy expanded (UK)
 

With effect from 1st May 2007, the UK Department for Transport will be introducing additional security checks on liquids carried in hand luggage through all UK and Channel Island Airports.

From that date, a sample of liquids carried in hand luggage will be subject to routine testing. This test involves sampling a liquid with a test strip, which then tracks for evidence of certain substances. The sample rate is relatively low and the test only takes a few seconds.
Fark :mad:

Points Scrounger Apr 30, 2007 10:35 am

Well ... ok ... if they can do that, then they could afford to lighten up on the stupid 100 ml restrictions along with it. Seems to me either they can check for explosives, or they can't?

honeytoes Apr 30, 2007 10:50 am

OP: What is the source for that? Thanks!

I LOL'd @ "Fark." ^

Wally Bird Apr 30, 2007 11:14 am


Originally Posted by honeytoes (Post 7663153)
OP: What is the source for that?

Posted on other boards (supposedly a "leaked" memo), but seemingly confirmed here .

Roger Apr 30, 2007 1:39 pm

Well, you can complain about the 'idoicy' but you'll just have to go along with it, or not bother.

Just like the 'idoicy' of two fingerprints being extended to all 10 digits at US Immigration shortly, and the photographing of the criminals, er, I mean visitors on entry. And have your bags never been swabbed?

Against all of that, a random liquid check of hand baggage is insignificant.

MKEbound Apr 30, 2007 1:58 pm

What's your tipping point where it's no longer insignificant for you?

I mean if a hand check of your bags isn't significant, than are you willing to accept a hand check of your bags every time you use the Tube or get on a bus? Is a full body scan on top of "two fingerprints being extended to all 10 digits at US Immigration shortly, and the photographing of the criminals, er, I mean visitors on entry." not that big of a deal since it's just one more thing?

We each have our point when it's just not worth it to travel anymore. The simple fact that visitors to the US is significantly down should be evidence of that!

mikeef Apr 30, 2007 2:03 pm


Originally Posted by Points Scrounger (Post 7663077)
Well ... ok ... if they can do that, then they could afford to lighten up on the stupid 100 ml restrictions along with it. Seems to me either they can check for explosives, or they can't?

I think you have it exactly right. I'm waiting for the follow-up memo that states that the liquid ban is coming to an end, since they have found a better method to, um, protect us.

Mike

Wally Bird Apr 30, 2007 2:26 pm


Originally Posted by Roger (Post 7664162)
Well, you can complain about the 'idoicy'

Spellchecking doesn't include the title it seems :o

Points Scrounger Apr 30, 2007 2:28 pm


Originally Posted by mikeef (Post 7664329)
I think you have it exactly right. I'm waiting for the follow-up memo that states that the liquid ban is coming to an end, since they have found a better method to, um, protect us.

Mike

I still don't believe that there's any significant "threat" to justify this stuff. However .. I'd be willing to hybridize security into: a) current lanes of 3-1-1 or b) voluntary SSSS for those who have stuff they refuse (for whatever reason) to check. You might have to wait longer, they swab your freakin' bottle of wine after checking the seal appears to be intact, and you don't have to check a bag just for that!

Not to mention all those dangerous snowglobes. I feel that one would have been the one to turn Kettles against this nonsense, if there's any one factor.

Loren Pechtel Apr 30, 2007 3:36 pm

And what about liquids in sealed containers??

I travel with liquid medicine. It comes in individual dose ampules. Once the seal is broken there's no way to close them again--it's meant to be used at that point. Furthermore, the ampules are packed in groups in sealed packets.

Test them how???

Points Scrounger Apr 30, 2007 3:52 pm


Originally Posted by Loren Pechtel (Post 7664940)
And what about liquids in sealed containers??

I travel with liquid medicine. It comes in individual dose ampules. Once the seal is broken there's no way to close them again--it's meant to be used at that point. Furthermore, the ampules are packed in groups in sealed packets.

Test them how???

I believe they would swab them (as best they could). Isn't medicine allowed now anyway?

vassilipan Apr 30, 2007 6:44 pm

I wonder if they will resuse the swabs like they do for the explosives detector?

whirledtraveler Apr 30, 2007 6:53 pm


With effect from 1st May 2007, the UK Department for Transport will be introducing additional security checks on liquids carried in hand luggage through all UK and Channel Island Airports.

From that date, a sample of liquids carried in hand luggage will be subject to routine testing. This test involves sampling a liquid with a test strip, which then tracks for evidence of certain substances. The sample rate is relatively low and the test only takes a few seconds.
Any penalties for bringing your own urine through security?

Spiff Apr 30, 2007 7:01 pm


Originally Posted by whirledtraveler (Post 7666063)
Any penalties for bringing your own urine through security?

Better make sure you're not unwittingly testing positive for prohibited substances... ;) :eek:

Loren Pechtel Apr 30, 2007 10:28 pm


Originally Posted by Points Scrounger (Post 7665021)
I believe they would swab them (as best they could). Isn't medicine allowed now anyway?

I'm just questioning how they could possibly test stuff like what I have.

Or anything that must be kept sterile.


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