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uswest33 Feb 23, 2007 1:56 pm


Originally Posted by FliesWay2Much (Post 7278660)
Don't worry -- they will send the Eyewitness News team out to MCO and will have no problem at all finding the "anything for security" and "I have nothing to hide" crowd. Then, the TSA Spokeshole will be interviewed with the same spin, proclaim it to be perfectly safe, and caution the sheople that they will be patted down if they refuse to be X-Ray'd.

Either don't dare watch the news today or hope that Britney does something really stupid before about 4:00pm.

It's already starting....http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070223/..._ray_screening

Quote from a passenger: Passenger Kristen Rodgers, 22, of Little Rock, Ark., who did not go through the screening, likened it to going to the doctor.

"If you tell yourself they have to look at that all day long, it makes yourself feel better," Rodgers said. "If it's just for security, just for 45 seconds, I think it would be worth catching somebody with something harmful

Wally Bird Feb 23, 2007 1:58 pm


"Privacy and security are not mutually exclusive..." said TSA Administrator Kip Hawley.
Must be a different Kip Hawley.

KleineFrau Feb 23, 2007 2:10 pm


Originally Posted by skAAtinsteph (Post 7280729)
Just remember it's optional and you can choose to have the standard pat down instead.

Being seen naked with the help of an x-ray (for frequent travelers, that cannot be good on purely an exposure level) or felt up. Gee, how do I choose?

LessO2 Feb 23, 2007 2:46 pm


Originally Posted by Rep. Harry Mitchell
"....the screening is voluntary."


So was shoe removal. :td:

doober Feb 23, 2007 3:18 pm

MSNBC: backscatter images MIGHT be stored after test period
 
Today we are being told that the filtered images taken by the backscatter are being immediately destroyed.

However, MSNBC reporter Tom Costello says that there is concern that after the test period, the TSA will begin storing the unfiltered scans.

Nope, no privacy issues here. :rolleyes:

GeneralAviation Feb 23, 2007 3:20 pm


Originally Posted by uswest33 (Post 7281131)
It's already starting....http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070223/..._ray_screening

Quote from a passenger: Passenger Kristen Rodgers, 22, of Little Rock, Ark., who did not go through the screening, likened it to going to the doctor.

"If you tell yourself they have to look at that all day long, it makes yourself feel better," Rodgers said. "If it's just for security, just for 45 seconds, I think it would be worth catching somebody with something harmful


What an idiot. My doctor is a professional, someone I trust.
The TSA is neither.

The Interstate looks better and better all the time.

doober Feb 23, 2007 3:30 pm


Originally Posted by uswest33 (Post 7281131)

Quote from a passenger: Passenger Kristen Rodgers, 22, of Little Rock, Ark., who did not go through the screening, likened it to going to the doctor.

...

Easy enough to find her address - somebody needs to sit down and write her a letter explaining the facts of life.

Droneklax Feb 23, 2007 10:14 pm

Unbelievable.

http://www.drudgereport.com/xray.jpg

Please. I can see the guy's testicles.

I would like to know when this craziness is going to stop, and how long the American people are going to put up with it.

This is a country that has a hissie fit when a tit shows up on TV, but that is willing to be stripped naked in front of total strangers in the name of "security".

Dear USA: At some point, you lose your pride and what you stand for.

P.S.: I'll gladly write "Kip Hawley is an idiot", in metallic paint on my chest, for their enjoyment.

hiltonhead Feb 24, 2007 7:12 am


Originally Posted by Droneklax (Post 7283882)
Unbelievable.

http://www.drudgereport.com/xray.jpg

Please. I can see the guy's testicles.

I would like to know when this craziness is going to stop, and how long the American people are going to put up with it.

This is a country that has a hissie fit when a tit shows up on TV, but that is willing to be stripped naked in front of total strangers in the name of "security".

Dear USA: At some point, you lose your pride and what you stand for.

P.S.: I'll gladly write "Kip Hawley is an idiot", in metallic paint on my chest, for their enjoyment.


I believe your link goes to a description of the older model that was rejected. The newer models, as shown in the posts above, show only a chalk outline..not unlike that on "etch-a-sketch". But that seems to not be the real issue here. The fact that they are doing it at all will cause most here to discount any method offered, no matter how unintrusive the technology is. Only in America will people lift their shirts during Mardi Gras and Girls Gone Wild, go on Jerry Springer and talk about their lesbian dog's affair with their cousin, post disgusting or provocative pictures on MySpace and YouTube...and then complain about a chalk outline of their body discretely viewed by a same sex security agent after they have alarmed at the airport. Gotta love it. If a chalk outline of your one's body is a source of concern, try this: http://www.bowflex.com

GUWonder Feb 24, 2007 7:25 am

The Indian government has rejected this nonsense and have decided their one virtual stripsearch device has no place in the process of screening the flying public as a condition to fly from Indian airports. ^^

msv Feb 24, 2007 7:46 am

Perhaps they should keep the high-resolution model and deny boarding to anyone with a blood clot.

msv

Droneklax Feb 24, 2007 8:03 am


Originally Posted by hiltonhead (Post 7285069)
If a chalk outline of your one's body is a source of concern, try this: http://www.bowflex.com

Actually, that didn't even cross my mind. FYI, I hit the gym four times a week and today is chest day, since you asked. My chalk outline against yours, buddy.:rolleyes:

I made the point about America's bipolar attitude in my post.

I find it disconcerting that you do not see how intrusive and pointless this is.

Incidentally: Bowflex, huh? LOL. Hope it works out for you.^

Cholula Feb 24, 2007 8:12 am


Originally Posted by Droneklax (Post 7283882)
I would like to know when this craziness is going to stop, and how long the American people are going to put up with it.


Evidently not until the Kool-Aid drinking travelers like this lady wise-up:


"It seems faster. I'm not uncomfortable with it," said Kelsi Dunbar, 25, of Seattle, who chose the machine. "I trust TSA, and I trust that they are definitely trying to make things go quickly and smoothly in the airport.
Here’s a link to today’s full story.

hiltonhead Feb 24, 2007 8:36 am


Originally Posted by Droneklax (Post 7285206)
Actually, that didn't even cross my mind. FYI, I hit the gym four times a week and today is chest day, since you asked. My chalk outline against yours, buddy.:rolleyes:

I made the point about America's bipolar attitude in my post.

I find it disconcerting that you do not see how intrusive and pointless this is.

Incidentally: Bowflex, huh? LOL. Hope it works out for you.^

1) Actually, I was only showing the bipolar attitude moving in the opposite direction...and pointing out that your link was inaccurate.

2) I'm glad that you find time to work out daily, more Americans should do so. Sorry you took the post personal, but at least we all now know that you are proud of your chalk outline.

3) I do not see that it is intruive at all. It is not mandatory, only comes into play when alarms are activated, and shows a chalk outline.

4) I don't use Bowflex either, but it was easy to spell and served the purpose of discussion.

5) If you don't agree with a post, simply state that...thumping your chest, challenges, "double-dog dares", and personal attacks are usually ignored.

GUWonder Feb 24, 2007 9:16 am


Originally Posted by hiltonhead (Post 7285315)
1) Actually, I was only showing the bipolar attitude moving in the opposite direction...and pointing out that your link was inaccurate.

2) I'm glad that you find time to work out daily, more Americans should do so. Sorry you took the post personal, but at least we all now know that you are proud of your chalk outline.

3) I do not see that it is intruive at all. It is not mandatory, only comes into play when alarms are activated, and shows a chalk outline.

4) I don't use Bowflex either, but it was easy to spell and served the purpose of discussion.

5) If you don't agree with a post, simply state that...thumping your chest, challenges, "double-dog dares", and personal attacks are usually ignored.

When it shows who has a tampon or is using a sanitary pad, it's not personal? :eek:


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