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No-fly List Checked for Accuracy, Cut
By BEVERLEY LUMPKIN, Associated Press Writer 3 minutes ago
WASHINGTON - The Bush administration is checking the accuracy of a watch list of suspected terrorists banned from traveling on airliners in the U.S. and will probably cut the list in half, the head of the Transportation Security Administration said Wednesday. News.yahoo.com |
Even cutting the list in half is "nice but not all that meaningful," said Barry Steinhardt, an attorney with the American Civil Liberties Union. He noted that various estimates of the list's size, which is classified, have ranged from 50,000 to 350,000 names.
"Cutting a list of 350,000 names is not all that impressive," Steinhardt added. I agree. 5+ years and we finally get a meaningless gesture predicated on un-Secure Flight being used? :mad: This agency needs to be destroyed! |
Originally Posted by Spiff
(Post 7039092)
Even cutting the list in half is "nice but not all that meaningful,"
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Divine intervention will be needed for DHS/TSA to get its act together even in this regard. As things stand with these blacklists, this is insufficient.
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Sen. Ted Stevens (R-Alaska) ended up being slowed down when travelling with his wife "Catherine" Stevens. Apparently, Mr. Cat Stevens, aka Yusuf Islam nowadays, being "blacklisted" of sorts led to Mrs. Cat Stevens being flagged down at US airports too. Couldn't happen to a better guy. ;)
These future "improvements" are being tied to SecureFlight at least in part. And SecureFlight's solution to this issue is to require more ID checks/ID data. :td: :td: No thank you. SecureFlight and unAmerican blacklists are a waste and should be tossed in favor of allocating resources to better explosives detection. As I've noted here multiple times, the idiots in charge of blacklist implementation have lead for brains .... and can't necessarily tell apart a woman from a man. Idiots. |
DHS is now going on the record and confirming in public that which has been known by those who have paid attention here on FT:
different airlines = different blacklists/blacklist implementation. |
Originally Posted by JumboJet
(Post 7039031)
WASHINGTON - The Bush administration is checking the accuracy of a watch list of suspected terrorists banned from traveling on airliners in the U.S. and will probably cut the list in half, the head of the Transportation Security Administration said Wednesday.
News.yahoo.com Review of names likely to halve TSA's no-fly list By Shaun Waterman UNITED PRESS INTERNATIONAL January 18, 2007 ... Mr. Hawley acknowledged that the review would not solve problems for passengers with names similar to those on one of his agency's lists... Sen. Ted Stevens, Alaska Republican... said he and his wife were stopped repeatedly for additional scrutiny at airports because her name, Catherine Stevens, was similar to Cat Stevens, a name previously used by the singer Yusuf Islam, who is on a U.S. watch list because of his donations to Palestinian charities linked to Hamas. Mr. Hawley said aggrieved passengers could apply for the agency's clear list through an expedited electronic process within 10 days. ... "Unfortunately, it depends airline by airline how their individual systems work as to how effectively that's done," he said, adding that the agency continued to work with the airlines on their matching technologies and ability to use the clear list. |
Odd timing with the Boston Legal episode from Tuesday.
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Originally Posted by GUWonder
(Post 7040630)
Sen. Ted Stevens (R-Alaska) ended up being slowed down when travelling with his wife "Catherine" Stevens. Apparently, Mr. Cat Stevens, aka Yusuf Islam nowadays, being "blacklisted" of sorts led to Mrs. Cat Stevens being flagged down at US airports too. Couldn't happen to a better guy. ;)
Seriously? |
*yawn*
The Bush administration may be trying to make nice this week on issues like the No-Fly List and illegal wiretapping, but they are hollow gestures that have come too late in the game. |
Hawley said aggrieved passengers could apply for the agency's clear list through an expedited electronic process within 10 days. |
Looks like they're taking all the Dennis Crane's off the list. :D
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Since DHS already admitted that no actual terrorists were on the No Fly List....remind me again why we have this list in the first place?
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Originally Posted by bocastephen
(Post 7043175)
Since DHS already admitted that no actual terrorists were on the No Fly List....remind me again why we have this list in the first place?
"Since DHS already admitted that actual terrorists are kept off the No Fly List....remind me again why we have this list in the first place?" One explanation: the lunatics run the asylum. |
Originally Posted by GUWonder
(Post 7044097)
You'll correct me if I am wrong, but I am pretty sure you meant to say:
"Since DHS already admitted that actual terrorists are kept off the No Fly List....remind me again why we have this list in the first place?" One explanation: the lunatics run the asylum. |
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