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Jaimito Cartero Jan 7, 2007 1:50 pm

I know nothing. Hoooogggggaaaaaaan!
 

Originally Posted by zjbell (Post 6969645)
The TSA protects us.

How dare you compare them to guards at Auschwitz.

Do you have relatives that were guards? :D

The mentality, "We just did what we were told", has been used to defend some of the most heinous acts in this world.

I flew to dozens of countries last year, almost 200,000 miles in total. I see how security is run, how logical it can be done. Pretending that the TSA is going to be your savior is just ostrich-like behavior.

I've flown domestic flights in countries where I didn't show ID to check in. I didn't take my shoes off. I brought liquids on the plane. Strangely enough, the planes aren't falling out of the sky in this country.

As I recall, the US didn't even start to do any security checks on passengers until 1970 or so, after a plane was hijacked. Do we need security screening? Sure. Do we need hundreds of stupid rules that don't really make a difference? No. When very few of the items in the hold have been x-rayed, or checked it's quite ridiculous to say that the plane is secure.

The emperor has no clothes.

SQ59 Jan 7, 2007 1:52 pm


Originally Posted by zjbell (Post 6969696)
I think they are doing the best they can.

Don' compare it to a gang. It's not.

Whatever it is you "think" has no bearing on anyone but you - please understand that, thanks.

gj83 Jan 7, 2007 1:53 pm

Where there's a will there's a way. If an attack happens why would they do something we are already on alert for?

Instead of being retroactive (shoes, liquids) TSA should be more proactive at finding things that actually may be a threat. Puffers aren't even being used at most airports and I haven't been to any airport that used the puffer to screen everyone. That naked picture thing won't solve the problem either.

Has anyone tried to make a shoe bomb since Reid?

I don't understand why people blow up planes to begin with. Seems kinda wimpy to me.

Jaimito Cartero Jan 7, 2007 1:58 pm


Originally Posted by zjbell (Post 6969725)
That's nice you flew 200,000 miles last year. I eclipse that mark within 2 months.

Believe me. I spend more time in airplanes and airports than you do.

The current rules are a step in the right direction.
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Big deal, you're a FAM. You take my FC upgrade seat, leave your guns in bathrooms, and waste money from the already bloated government budget.

How many countries to you fly to? Do you go through all the normal security procedures that we do? I think not.

Texas_Dawg Jan 7, 2007 1:58 pm


Originally Posted by zjbell (Post 6969696)
I'll give you a hint.

The TSA is involved in my 'place' of business.

I think they are doing the best they can.

Don' compare it to a gang. It's not.

I asked you about a gang you do not approve of, not one that benefits you. I think we both know you would oppose a gang doing something you didn't want them to do and forcing you to pay for it. Just as the TSA does to us. The only difference here is that the TSA benefits you. Not very consistent of you.

The TSA is a gang of thugs out to enrich themselves. Nothing more.

SQ59 Jan 7, 2007 2:00 pm


Originally Posted by zjbell (Post 6969741)
Again. Contribute something instead of taking jabs at my opinion.

Express your opinion. Don't spew garbage.

My contribution is my opinion - if you have a problem with what I have to say, please refrain from attacking me by calling what I have to say "garbage".

The hypocrisy is amazing.

My opinion is the TSA is a joke of an organization - sorry if you don't like that.

Texas_Dawg Jan 7, 2007 2:01 pm


Originally Posted by zjbell (Post 6969741)
Again. Contribute something instead of taking jabs at my opinion.

Express your opinion. Don't spew garbage.

Dude, you do nothing to contribute any intelligent argument here. You post lazy one-line posts about how the TSA protects us. You fail to address questions about how exactly they do this, about whether that even gives them the right to do so, about why others couldn't, etc.


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