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Unimatrix One Dec 24, 2006 2:08 am

Japan to adopt stupid liquid rules
 
Just saw a notice on the JAL web site announcing that effective February 1 (I think), all international departures from Japan will be subject to essentially the same stupid liquid rules as US flights. Passengers are limited to one 1-liter "freedom baggie" and can only take containers of liquids of 100mL or less.

And the press release also said that all passengers will be required to place laptops, freedom baggies, and coats in separate bins for x-ray screening. (Until recently Japan has never required removal of laptops.)

At least it sounds like domestic flights are not subject to the new rules (yet). I've taken a number of domestic flights recently, and the security process is far saner (with people who are actually competent and polite) than in the US.

IceTrojan Dec 24, 2006 2:17 am

A 1 liter freedom baggie! But... but... the plane will explode! :eek:

:td:

Spiff Dec 24, 2006 9:45 am

Good thing there are no terrorism events planned in January. :rolleyes:

Bakayaros. :td:

Sanosuke Dec 24, 2006 9:52 am

Damn, the greatest place I go to, placed under the guise of british and US security rules. :( That means I gotta be ready to unpack my laptop and such now that I go back in March/April to Tokyo. Its supposed to be pretty safe anyway in Japan, is it not the fact? :(

Sanosuke!

bdschobel Dec 24, 2006 10:07 am

Of course it's safe in Japan! It's safe in the U.S., too, but the government wants people to believe that thousands of terrorists are lurking in the shadows, ready to pounce on us. All of this "security" machinery is designed to keep the population frightened. Unfortunately, it's succeeding all too well. :rolleyes:

Bruce

vassilipan Dec 24, 2006 7:13 pm


Originally Posted by bdschobel (Post 6897899)
Of course it's safe in Japan! It's safe in the U.S., too, but the government wants people to believe that thousands of terrorists are lurking in the shadows, ready to pounce on us. All of this "security" machinery is designed to keep the population frightened. Unfortunately, it's succeeding all too well. :rolleyes:

Bruce

You got dat right.

MikeFly Dec 24, 2006 8:50 pm

Frankly, I am surprised that Japan hasn't implemented the 3 1 1 policy earlier. As suprised as I am by that I am equally surprised that Australia decided to implement it.

Politicians have ruined travel! I vote for Spiff to run worldwide airport security:D

SDF_Traveler Dec 24, 2006 8:52 pm


Originally Posted by Unimatrix One (Post 6897024)
Just saw a notice on the JAL web site announcing that effective February 1 (I think), all international departures from Japan will be subject to essentially the same stupid liquid rules as US flights. Passengers are limited to one 1-liter "freedom baggie" and can only take containers of liquids of 100mL or less.

And the press release also said that all passengers will be required to place laptops, freedom baggies, and coats in separate bins for x-ray screening. (Until recently Japan has never required removal of laptops.)

At least it sounds like domestic flights are not subject to the new rules (yet). I've taken a number of domestic flights recently, and the security process is far saner (with people who are actually competent and polite) than in the US.

Any chance they're doing this to avoid having "second" / special screening for passengers on flights to the US & EU? It would put pax traveling to "sane" nations at a disadvantage, but it would mean everyone gets screened at the same level and eliminates the need for a 2nd search for specific items at the gate. (?)

If liquids, etc., were a serious threat to Japan, the policy would have been implemented a long time ago.

aircraft engineer Dec 24, 2006 9:05 pm

Korea did it in NOVEMBER (I was there 11/4 at Incheon - but it was gate enforced) They were surprised whan I DRANK my bottle of water rather than dump it

rufflesinc Dec 24, 2006 9:28 pm

i thought japanese airports had some special equipment to screen liquids?

Unimatrix One Dec 24, 2006 10:44 pm


Originally Posted by rufflesinc (Post 6899559)
i thought japanese airports had some special equipment to screen liquids?

Yes, they do, which is another reason why this new rule is so crazy.

GUWonder Dec 25, 2006 12:07 am

Not surprised. The airport security insanity is infectious.

Scifience Dec 25, 2006 9:40 am


Originally Posted by Unimatrix One (Post 6899734)
Yes, they do, which is another reason why this new rule is so crazy.

I really think the only reason this is being implemented is to save them the trouble of having two screening checkpoints for passengers headed to the insane countries.

If they really thought there was a threat, they would have (1) done this much sooner, and (2) be instituting the policy for domestic flights as well. Unfortunately, seeing as these are the Japanese, they will likely do a much "better" job enforcing this policy than the morons at the TSA, and therefore it will be much harder to sneak things through security. :(

susiesan Dec 25, 2006 10:07 am

I get it!!
 
Bakayaros. :td:[/QUOTE]

Only a few of us out here get this. Totally agree. Dame desu.

Unimatrix One Dec 26, 2006 7:18 am


Originally Posted by Scifience (Post 6900550)
I really think the only reason this is being implemented is to save them the trouble of having two screening checkpoints for passengers headed to the insane countries.

I hadn't even thought of that before. You're probably right. Otherwise, how to explain why they are only requiring this for departing flights but not for inbound flights to Japan? They are also not requiring it for domestic flights.


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