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indufan Dec 10, 2006 9:22 am


Originally Posted by slippahs (Post 6804411)
Only, it's not your thumbprint. It's your index and middle finger. I don't know how relevant that is when most people only have their thumbprints on file (e.g., with the DMV)... or if you're ever charged with a crime, then I guess you have all your prints on file.

Most people don't have any prints on file at all. How many DMV agencies out there collect thumb print information?

scirel Dec 10, 2006 6:59 pm


Originally Posted by justageek (Post 6804161)
OTOH WDW does have a reputation for having fairly draconian security... For example, they now take and store a fingerprint scan of everyone who enters the park. And before that there was other stuff.

Yeah, but I'll never forget the security at Tokyo Disneyland...to open up my bag, and they just looked in. I had my sweatshirt on top, covering everything. I could have had an arsenal underneath, but the person didn't ask me to move it, or wand me, or anything. Just waved me through. Granted, Japan is a safe country, but after that pathetic display of security I actually felt a bit less secure in the park.

themicah Dec 10, 2006 7:28 pm

In college some friends and I ended up at Pleasure Island one time. One of my friends went to get a drink at the bar. He was 21 and wearing an apporpriate wristband. The Mickey Mouse Police came over and demanded to see his ID. He showed them his real OH driver's license. They insisted it was fake and demanded a second form of ID. He showed them his private college ID, which also had his birthdate. They still didn't believe him. He asked why in the world anyone would bother with two forms of fake ID. The response? "We don't pretend to understand the minds of criminals."

Luckily he was able to talk some sense into them, and they didn't haul him off to the Happiest Prison on Earth[tm]. Meanwhile, while these crack detectives (er, Cast Members[tm]?) were trying to figure out why an evil Ohio kid was carrying two fakes, I watched a couple other 21yos in our group buy multiple drinks and proceed to pour them into the "soda" cups of their 19yo friends. :rolleyes:

slippahs Dec 10, 2006 7:34 pm


Originally Posted by indufan (Post 6823683)
Most people don't have any prints on file at all. How many DMV agencies out there collect thumb print information?

Hawaii's does.

California's does. http://www.lbl.gov/LBL-Work/HR/irss/dmv.html

A quick search shows there are other states out there as well.

mkt Dec 10, 2006 8:03 pm


Originally Posted by themicah (Post 6825995)
In college some friends and I ended up at Pleasure Island one time. One of my friends went to get a drink at the bar. He was 21 and wearing an apporpriate wristband. The Mickey Mouse Police came over and demanded to see his ID. He showed them his real OH driver's license. They insisted it was fake and demanded a second form of ID. He showed them his private college ID, which also had his birthdate. They still didn't believe him. He asked why in the world anyone would bother with two forms of fake ID. The response? "We don't pretend to understand the minds of criminals."

Luckily he was able to talk some sense into them, and they didn't haul him off to the Happiest Prison on Earth[tm]. Meanwhile, while these crack detectives (er, Cast Members[tm]?) were trying to figure out why an evil Ohio kid was carrying two fakes, I watched a couple other 21yos in our group buy multiple drinks and proceed to pour them into the "soda" cups of their 19yo friends. :rolleyes:

The blue canaries... err.. WDW security are idiots. When I was 22, I entered PI at the Adventurers Club using my spanish passport and they tried denying me based on my birthplace of Boston, my non-Spanish sounding surname (I have a Catalan surname), and the fact that I speak perfect English... I pulled out my California license and made them run it. Once it passed, I demanded on getting a manager and I believe 2 cast members lost their jobs over it.

I'm a freakin regular at PI when I'm in MCO. I know their rules better than they do... don't mess with me.

PatrickHenry1775 Dec 10, 2006 8:14 pm


Originally Posted by indufan (Post 6823683)
Most people don't have any prints on file at all. How many DMV agencies out there collect thumb print information?

At least one state that I know of requires applicants to the bar to submit fingerprints before being licensed to practice law.

htb Dec 10, 2006 10:10 pm


Originally Posted by scirel (Post 6825887)
Granted, Japan is a safe country, but after that pathetic display of security I actually felt a bit less secure in the park.

Less safe than outside the park?

I had to laugh about the bag "searches" too -- Metropolitan Government Office Towers in Shinjuku: they just look into one compartment of your bag. It's just theatre... and unnecessary on top.


HTB.

scirel Dec 11, 2006 12:37 am


Originally Posted by indufan (Post 6823683)
Most people don't have any prints on file at all. How many DMV agencies out there collect thumb print information?

Not only that, anyone who's ever worked for the Federal Government does, like yours truly. That's a lot of people.

tmorse6570 Dec 11, 2006 3:43 am

delete

TierFlyer Dec 11, 2006 3:47 am

I blame Kip Hawley.

And if there are real hurricanes this coming year, that's his fault too.

UncleDude Dec 11, 2006 4:23 am


Originally Posted by xyzzy (Post 6823616)
The folks in LV take your picture. They don't take your fingerprints.

If they dont like the way you are winning, they take your pic and biometrically scan it through their computors databases to ensure you are not on their no play list. This list now covers most of the worlds Major Casinos, certainly a bigger infringement of privacy than the Disney 30 days Fingerprint store.

TierFlyer Dec 11, 2006 4:41 am

Also fingerprinted if you (a) apply for an FFL, (b) take a CCW license in most states, or (c) act as a boy scout leader in many states.

cestmoi123 Dec 11, 2006 7:12 am


Originally Posted by PatrickHenry1775 (Post 6826185)
At least one state that I know of requires applicants to the bar to submit fingerprints before being licensed to practice law.

Also, anyone who's worked for a NASD broker-dealer has been printed - it's done every time you change jobs.

Ari Dec 11, 2006 12:26 pm


Originally Posted by cestmoi123 (Post 6827840)
Also, anyone who's worked for a NASD broker-dealer has been printed - it's done every time you change jobs.

Almost everyone in the banking and securities industry has been fingerprinted.

I didn't know they do it when you change jobs-- that's a nice touch.

cestmoi123 Dec 11, 2006 9:11 pm


Originally Posted by Ari (Post 6829717)
Almost everyone in the banking and securities industry has been fingerprinted.

I didn't know they do it when you change jobs-- that's a nice touch.

Every time you start a new gig - need to confirm that you're actually the person you say you are...


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