Web could be terror training camp: Chertoff
 

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061017/..._chertoff_dc_5

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"We now have a capability of someone to radicalize themselves over the Internet," Chertoff said on the sidelines of a meeting of International Association of the Chiefs of Police.

"They can train themselves over the Internet. They never have to necessarily go to the training camp or speak with anybody else and that diffusion of a combination of hatred and technical skills in things like bomb-making is a dangerous combination," Chertoff said. "Those are the kind of terrorists that we may not be able to detect with spies and satellites."

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Let's ban the Internet! :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Mods, I wasn't sure if this belongs here - took a chance because it was DHS material - feel free to move :)

MICROSOFT ANNOUNCES NEW SECURITY ENHANCEMENTS FOR WINDOWS DHS EDITION


-Redmond Washington-
Microsoft announces a new security enhancment for windows version DHS. DHS will supercede all preexisting windows version. Some of the new features will include a fingerprint and DNA analysis upon login which will be automatically routed to the U.S. Department of Homeland Security. Also a new safety feature will require each person logging onto Windows DHS edition to show a government issued ID.

When asked how he felt about it, Secretary Chertoff said "I feel that today we have won a victory in the war on terror." He then showed how the security features will work, a process which took him about an hour to log into Windows DHS. And after logging in he repeatedly needed to scan his ID through the system. He was succesfully able to send an email through which should get to it's final destination sometime next week.

Chertoff probably considers FlyerTalk a global security threat too. :rolleyes:

If FlyerTalk.com were to receive a NSL as part of a "terrorism-related investigation" -- whatever that is :rolleyes: -- it wouldn't even be allowed to be officially mentioned here, right?

^^ :D

You took the words right out of my mouth.

LOL, Feel safer everybody?

Every time Comrade Chertoff, aka the little piece of dog crap's nonsense is posted on an internet site, I feel like his terrorist training camp is extending into cyberspace.

May you rot in Hell, Comrade Chertoff. You are quite possibly the worst so-called American to ever live. :td: :td:

How can we be safe until FlyerTalk is banned and all FT lovers of "metal" plastic cards are "registered" or banned if they dare to voice something other than the party line. Just kidding. :D

As at least some in DHS are monitoring FT, amongst a few other things, I feel safer already. :rolleyes:

I often review the ativity reports for a couple of community websites in London that serve some local muslim associations. It's really funny to see addresses in the U.S. State Dept. reading lists of recent births, college application tips, burial advice and listening to community radio feeds.

The U.S. is so not going to win any war with DHS, The Bush White House and Rumsfeld's pentagon on the job. Anyway, it's really fine by me if they want to waste their valuable resources.

Used to be that only the nutsos on street corners wearing tinfoil hats talked like that. Now, not so much.

Sad but true, especially as the government couldn't do before what it does now. Some are just reading it because they are interested in those things which interest frequent flyers. Others with relevant government (and government contractor) IP addresses are another matter.

So what does Chertoff want? Web filtering at the national level like they have in China? :rolleyes:

Who leads the FT Revolution?
 

After reading some topics, his underling Kip "The Idiot"©®™ has probably decided the Leader of the FT Cell is somone with the code name "Osama Bart Spiff" and put them on the No Fly List. :D

I feel safer already. ^ Good work, Kip. ^ Your bonus is on its way. In cash. In a Quart Ziploc. @:-)

How can you tell when Chertoff is saying something stupid? His lips are moving. :D

No-compute list. You will be required to present ID to the computer which will then allow login only if you are not on the list. You will be required to re-validate that ID every few minutes at random. David Nelson, Robert Johnson, and Sam Adams will have to go back to using snail mail. Politicians on both sides of the aisle and government officials will say it's OK to deny computer access without due process because there's no "right to use a computer" expressed in the Constitution. :rolleyes:

Ben F, you forgot a few things
 

Why did you have to bring this up and remind them? :rolleyes: Next they will figure out there is no "right to fly in turbojet powered aircraft" and no "right to be free from idiots working for DHS" in the Constitution either. :confused:

As part of a post-disasater "recovery" measure? I'd hope not, but these are the same "leaders" that gave us FEMA's most publicized failure, amongst other major failures.

Terrorist use of the Internet is actually a big deal. Chertoff is right.

I don't believe we should restrict or monitor the 99.99+% of lawful internet use just for the possibility of catching the 0.01-% of unlawful use.

Civil liberties should trump the illusion of security every time.

Chertoff isn't right about anything, except .... No, Chertoff isn't right about anything.

Or perhaps you were referring to the terrorist web site www.dhs.gov ? ;)

I'm not suggesting we restrict the use of the Internet of monitor users. But if we know that certain sites are being used to recruit terrorists and give them taskings, I don't think we should ignore that information either.

If there's warrants, probable cause and the other components of a legitimate criminal investigation, you have a point.

However, Comrade Chertoff is not known for following such procedures. :(

I hope there's a tip line so I can report www.dhs.gov for terrorist activity. ;)

If terrorists use Windows, we have nothing to worry about.

"Excellent!"

I should feel bad that I started giggling when I saw the "terror alert" badge. But I do not feel bad.

Believe me, they're not ignoring it. That's all I'll say.

Of course the government isn't ignoring it. They are even overreacting to some of the internet postings -- for example, like today with the football stadium games and radioactive dirty bomb nonsense. The government says this particular threat is not credible yet spread the story around anyway. Government doubletalk, idiocy.

There is massive amounts of money being spent by the US government to monitor the internet on massive scales. A lot of this is wasted and some of the idiocy involving foreign language (including romanized foreign language) postings is stunning. This is not a government that inspires confidence.

Cannot be repeated often enough.

And yet they still keep a coming over to America...

In all seriousnous though, these jihad websites will certainly continue to operate on the internet, regardless if one or two get shut down. It will just make them adapt to the changes. It is too easy and lucrative to hate America and the rest of the west now. How far we've come in 5 years.

Sure terrorists use the Internet...
 

And terrorists use phone networks to communicate. The government did not find it necessary to advertise the fact that they were listening to terror (giving them the benefit of doubt) cells or that telephone traffic between operatives was a threat.

Why would they advertise the fact that the Internet is a threat and that it needs monitoring? :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

And why now? :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

The answer is not hard to guess but I'll leave it to you creative souls to arrive at it yourselves :D

After Katrina, why is Mike Chertoff still even in office?

Doesn't Mike C. know that TALKING to poeple could be used to recruit terrorists? BOOKS could be used. Should be ban public places? Shut down printing presses? Ban Islam and close the mosques? Ban teachers from mentioning terrorism? Should we ban the Koran, the Torah, and the Bible?

Why not ask a DHS representative to sit in my apartment and proofread each email I write and look over every web site I visit? Since they already have the phones tapped, this seems like a good idea. And the DHS budget is big enough to probably support it.

In some ways, Chertoff's claim about the internet and Rumsfeld's NFL/dirty bomb schtik are good for the FlyerTalk cause. Their claims are so stupid that they help further destroy the last remaining modicum of credibility for the "War on Terror."

I know.

I'm sitting in China reading this thread now. DHS probably wants more restrictive filtering than they have here (which is saying something...)

Oh, it's much worse than that. Before getting on the internet, you will have to empty your pockets and remove all other electronic devices. In addition, you will have to take your shoes off.

While sitting at your desk, you may not drink anything from a container that has more than three ounces of liquid in it.

Mike

"Good morning, Dave..." :)

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

You'd also have to put your mouse in a plastic baggie too. :D

China? No... he wants something like Iran.

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