FlyerTalk Forums

FlyerTalk Forums (https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/index.php)
-   Practical Travel Safety and Security Issues (https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/practical-travel-safety-security-issues-686/)
-   -   RDU Shoe Harassment (https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/practical-travel-safety-security-issues/392579-rdu-shoe-harassment.html)

veefib Jan 23, 2005 9:38 pm

RDU just hired a new crop
 
Hey y'all - I just wrapped up 4 months of weekly flights to RDU. They *just* hired a whole bunch of new people. How do I know? Because for a few weeks there I got to spend lots of time holding up lines while the FNG on the screen tried to decide whether or not my computer bag needed to be checked. It got to the point where I started saying "Just search the bag, it will take less time" and "if you have to think about it, search the bag". It was actually faster.

Keep the lines moving, kids.

So yeah, RDU is still a good airport, they just need to get the new crop up to speed.

robodeer Jan 23, 2005 9:39 pm


Originally Posted by Spiff
Actually, the question is:

How much can be put in your shoes, vs how much can be put in your underwear or up your butt?

or would it matter? no big puffy jackets taken off-no complaints. you don't even have to bother with shoes or sticking things up your butt.

should platform shoes be checked?

or only shoes with shanks?

or should shoes be checked at all?

but i digress. back on topic.

robodeer Jan 23, 2005 9:45 pm


Originally Posted by veefib
Hey y'all - I just wrapped up 4 months of weekly flights to RDU. They *just* hired a whole bunch of new people. How do I know? Because for a few weeks there I got to spend lots of time holding up lines while the FNG on the screen tried to decide whether or not my computer bag needed to be checked. It got to the point where I started saying "Just search the bag, it will take less time" and "if you have to think about it, search the bag". It was actually faster.

Keep the lines moving, kids.

So yeah, RDU is still a good airport, they just need to get the new crop up to speed.

cue camera guy's comment.

i shudder to think of the # of FNGs that come in to replace those more experienced ones.

Spiff Jan 23, 2005 10:23 pm


Originally Posted by robodeer
or would it matter? no big puffy jackets taken off-no complaints. you don't even have to bother with shoes or sticking things up your butt.

The only reason I don't complain about my jackets being removed is because they all contain enough metal to trigger the WTMD.

Otherwise, I'd be just as livid.

robodeer Jan 24, 2005 1:25 am


Originally Posted by Spiff
The only reason I don't complain about my jackets being removed is because they all contain enough metal to trigger the WTMD.

Otherwises, I'd be just as livid.

i know it. :)

previous point being it's been ground that we've covered before. opinion/debate-wise.

CameraGuy Jan 24, 2005 6:42 pm


Originally Posted by trixievictoria
You have got to be the one kidding :rolleyes: ....so every single person MUST first time out of the gate perform to excellence in your book?.... :confused:

And I am sure in a week you would memorize all shoes that are travel approved ..and discern all passengers who claim to be wearing those particular type of shoes....and are not...

Wow! I feel sorry for your kids, dog , wife, or anyone else who has to perform anything for you...... ;) How about a little human compassion…. CameraGuy

I think the original poster had a sense of understanding.....I don't want to presume to speak for him....but the said what he had to say to her bosses....

Oh and check that pay scale again...new employees are not exactly giving Donald Trump a run for his money on TSA salary....

If they cannot determine ONE INCH after "40 Hours" of training, then they should be fired. PERIOD.

This work is what I refer to as "chimp work", that means that a trained chimp could perform the function, thus anything higher than minimum wage is too high.

As for compassion, I have plenty of it THANK YOU, for people who deserve it. I have NONE for someone who cannot determine ONE INCH of thickness after "40 Hours" of training.

trixievictoria Jan 24, 2005 7:23 pm

When I was younger you would be surprised who tried to pass an inch as a whole lot more..... :p

Peetah Jan 24, 2005 8:30 pm


Originally Posted by CameraGuy
If they cannot determine ONE INCH after "40 Hours" of training, then they should be fired. PERIOD.

This work is what I refer to as "chimp work", that means that a trained chimp could perform the function, thus anything higher than minimum wage is too high.

As for compassion, I have plenty of it THANK YOU, for people who deserve it. I have NONE for someone who cannot determine ONE INCH of thickness after "40 Hours" of training.

^ I completely agree!

I've had enough with these *****es (male and female) who can't seem to figure out how big one inch is (I hate to find out how big they think 10 inches is). And to add to the fire, some get off on sending people to secondary because they can. :mad:

I wonder how long it'll be till the *******s at the TSA will make us disrobe and put on paper "clothes" prior to going to security.

robodeer Jan 24, 2005 8:35 pm


Originally Posted by Peetah
I wonder how long it'll be till the *******s at the TSA will make us disrobe and put on paper "clothes" prior to going to security.

besides things with metal (belts, etc), jackets and shoes-that has been the only "issues" that i've run into.

it seems to vary wildly on the emotional impact of having to take those off.

some airports "suggest" that you take all shoes off, some screeners or airports "suggest" that you take certain shoes that may be fine with the vast majority of airports.

either way, not following the directions defaults to the process that we all know.

i wish it was a simpler world and there were no variance... but the above seems to hold true.

LEX-LGA Commuter Jan 25, 2005 5:39 am

No slack, sir!
 

You have got to be the one kidding ....so every single person MUST first time out of the gate perform to excellence in your book?....
In your job? Yes, absolutely! Here's why.....

You cannot have it both ways, period. Either you guys are the superhero law enforcement specialists that are our last line of defense against evil doing flyers who need no slack -OR- you are merely bag searchers and shoe sniffers who deserve some slack. So, which is it?

Furthermore, there are young men and women in all branches of our military making a hell of a lot less than you, and living in the dirt daily, who are most definitely expected to "first time out of the gate perform to excellence in your book".

But what I find particulary hypocritical is that you dare ask for "slack", yet your organization refuses to cut any to the flying public. Try looking in the mirror first.

trixievictoria Jan 25, 2005 7:51 am

* ducking the flag waving in my face*


Furthermore, there are young men and women in all branches of our military making a hell of a lot less than you, and living in the dirt daily, who are most definitely expected to "first time out of the gate perform to excellence in your book".

My husband and my father both AD Military. How about you? served your country or just enjoy those freedoms hard earned for you?...are you are perfect in what you do?..never tried to pass an inch off as something more?.... :p


In your job? Yes, absolutely! Here's why.....
My job is a housewife..Moreover, my husband cuts me some slack...the guy was not thrown in the GULOG for the shoe thing..he was unnecessarily detained for 10 minutes....a pain yes...worth all your up roar...No I don't think so...

Oh and Military pay scales are PUBLIC ...check them out....TSA makes far less then those in uniform (althought not much either)...so that is comparing apples and apes…....

LEX-LGA Commuter Jan 25, 2005 9:01 am

Bad move trixie
 

My husband and my father both AD Military. How about you? served your country or just enjoy those freedoms hard earned for you?..
A little reading on your part might have revealed the thread where I mentioned that I always use my military ID at the TSA checkpoints. So the answer is yes, 22 years. And having now gone there, are you going to just live vicariously through the actions of your hubby and daddy? They aren't posting here, you are. When exactly did you stand your turn on watch? Women are certainly able to serve honorably, as you so correctly said: "What about you?"

Indeed. Thought so........ :td:

trixievictoria Jan 25, 2005 9:18 am


A little reading on your part might have revealed the thread where I mentioned that I always use my military ID at the TSA checkpoints. So the answer is yes, 22 years. And having now gone there, are you going to just live vicariously through the actions of your hubby and daddy? They aren't posting here, you are. When exactly did you stand your turn on watch? Women are certainly able to serve honorably, as you so correctly said: "What about you?"

Well proud man..Wives and family members of AD members serve too...the sacrifices are not just in the tents and trenches....how dare you even go there? :mad: But this is waaaaay off topic....

Spiff Jan 25, 2005 9:24 am

Serving one's country in the military is indeed a noble action.

However, it does not give one license to crap all over the Constitution and the civil liberties of this nation's citizens or guests.

bdschobel Jan 25, 2005 9:31 am


Originally Posted by trixievictoria
Well proud man..Wives and family members of AD members serve too...the sacrifices are not just in the tents and trenches....how dare you even go there? :mad: But this is waaaaay off topic....

If you want to compare the sacrifices of military families to the risks faced by the military members themselves, you'll get little support from anybody with a brain. Maybe you had a little bit of a point before the U.S. was actively at war, but today? Forget about it! Families don't risk their lives.

Bruce


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 7:43 am.


This site is owned, operated, and maintained by MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Designated trademarks are the property of their respective owners.