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Originally Posted by eyecue
Since 9/11/01 there has been 4 passengers killed on aircraft flights for getting out of control. These people were killed by other passengers. 3 of the four have been ruled justifiable homicides. The fourth is still pending.
On to the original topic - it was ridiculous the woman was arrested in the first place & also ridiculous that an apology wasn't done right away to defuse the situation. Cheers. Sharon |
Originally Posted by robodeer
and yet, there was no mention of procedure that had to be done...
Are you asserting that the morons in charge of this f'd up mess followed mandatory procedures? If so, the drafters of those procedures should be fired. |
Originally Posted by eyecue
Since 9/11/01 there has been 4 passengers killed on aircraft flights for getting out of control. These people were killed by other passengers. 3 of the four have been ruled justifiable homicides. The fourth is still pending.
The only one with which I am familiar is Southwest Airlines passenger Jonathan Burton's death, but that happened on Aug 11, 2000: http://www.cnn.com/2000/US/09/16/passenger.dead.ap/ http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:S...assenger&hl=en Burton's death was the inspiration for the CSI episode mentioned by SkiAdcock. If 4 more have happened in the past 3 years, they received scant media attention. |
Originally Posted by FWAAA
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Are you asserting that the morons in charge of this f'd up mess followed mandatory procedures? did the screener stop the bag because s/he knew it was a bookmark? |
A few weeks ago, I was in Ben Gurion Airport getting my security check before getting on a flight to Turkey.
I was asked one of the routine questions that every traveller here is asked: "Do you have any weapon in your baggage?" My reply: "I have the two most powerful weapons in the history of the world. A book and a pen." This led to a very enjoyable few minutes as she and I discussed philosophy before I checked in. I wonder what the reaction would have been if I gave that same reply to a TSA screener. I have the feeling that at the very least I would have been SSSSed and very probably fined or arrested. I think a philosophical discussion would never have followed my remark! |
Originally Posted by Dovster
I wonder what the reaction would have been if I gave that same reply to a TSA screener. I have the feeling that at the very least I would have been SSSSed and very probably fined or arrested.
I think a philosophical discussion would never have followed my remark! Nothing against (most of) the TSA posters on this board, but a philosophical discussion would require a lot more intelligence than I have observed in the Age of TSA. |
good one
Originally Posted by Dovster
A few weeks ago, I was in Ben Gurion Airport getting my security check before getting on a flight to Turkey.
I was asked one of the routine questions that every traveller here is asked: "Do you have any weapon in your baggage?" My reply: "I have the two most powerful weapons in the history of the world. A book and a pen." This led to a very enjoyable few minutes as she and I discussed philosophy before I checked in. I wonder what the reaction would have been if I gave that same reply to a TSA screener. I have the feeling that at the very least I would have been SSSSed and very probably fined or arrested. I think a philosophical discussion would never have followed my remark! |
Originally Posted by ender83
Are you kidding? You would have been fined and arrested! :rolleyes:
Nothing against (most of) the TSA posters on this board, but a philosophical discussion would require a lot more intelligence than I have observed in the Age of TSA. Yeah, you make friends easily everywhere you go, I bet. And if you wish a philosophical discussion - I'm you're Huckleberry. Don't work for TSA though, but am a fed. Is that sufficiently pedantic enough for you? |
In November, I will be flying TLV-FLL-MXP.
I will be carrying with me five Israeli t-shirts to give to people when I get to Italy. One of them says "ISRAELI POLICE BOMB SQUAD". After reading about the bookmark and the famed BOB incident in Oz, I am not taking any chances. That t-shirt will be in my checked baggage, in a see-through Ziplock bag, packed with the other four on top and bottom. If not, I am seriously concerned that the TSA will see only the word "BOMB", ignore the rest of it, and close down the terminal until the matter is straightened out. |
Originally Posted by Dovster
If not, I am seriously concerned that the TSA will see only the word "BOMB", ignore the rest of it, and close down the terminal until the matter is straightened out.
How silly society has become that we even have to have this conversation . . . |
Common sense and the TSA are mutually exclusive. ;)
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I guess we're all now so much more secure that the offending bookmark and obvious teacher-turned-terrorist have been stopped by some brainiac... :rolleyes:
I guess that's what happens when reason and common sense take a back seat to fear-mongering, security window dressing, and the hopes of getting your name mentioned as the next "saviour of the skies". Perhaps things will change some day... But I'm not counting on it. No offense to some of the folks that post here, but the interactions I've had with the average TSA employee have led me to believe that these jobs aren't held by the most intelligent of folks. And unfortunately these folks don't employ common sense, reason, etiquette, or manners nearly as much as they should be for front-line folks that deal with the public on a daily basis. Part of the TSA's problem is an image problem-- and they aren't doing anything about it. |
Originally Posted by clrankin
I guess we're all now so much more secure that the offending bookmark and obvious teacher-turned-terrorist have been stopped by some brainiac... :rolleyes:
I guess that's what happens when reason and common sense take a back seat to fear-mongering, security window dressing, and the hopes of getting your name mentioned as the next "saviour of the skies". Perhaps things will change some day... But I'm not counting on it. No offense to some of the folks that post here, but the interactions I've had with the average TSA employee have led me to believe that these jobs aren't held by the most intelligent of folks. And unfortunately these folks don't employ common sense, reason, etiquette, or manners nearly as much as they should be for front-line folks that deal with the public on a daily basis. Part of the TSA's problem is an image problem-- and they aren't doing anything about it. Mostly it is "Well, I have been told to do X so I will do X". And please no comparisons to the Nazis. There is a world of difference between intensive security and gassing people. |
Originally Posted by law dawg
And please no comparisons to the Nazis.
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Originally Posted by AArlington
Jawohl, Mein Herr! :D
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