Question on laptop screening
#1
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Question on laptop screening
I recently bought a new laptop and a neoprene sleeve to cushion my laptop from the usual bumps and scratches that go with travel.
Not even thinking about it, I just placed the neoprene clad laptop in the tub and started to put it through the machine. The TSA guy working told me to remove the sleeve. I did without arguing or rolling my eyes at the policies for the first time in a long time. Walked through the WTMD and was then told by the TSA guy who told me about the sleeve to take my shoes off. I was already through and was then told to take my shoes off...hmmm...
Anyway, my question is this, if the X-ray machine can see through the aluminum skin and other metal insides of my laptop, would that tricky neoprene have blocked the X rays?
Also do the baggage X-rays we shove our stuff through only have X-ray capability or do they have some sort of sniffer capability to look for explosives? I ask because after I was through the WTMD and then was told to remove my shoes, I must have had a puzzled expression on my face because the TSA guy told me they weren't just looking for metal. So if they are looking for explosives in shoes, I can only surmise that the X-ray machines have built-in sniffers...if they don't then you have to wonder...
Not even thinking about it, I just placed the neoprene clad laptop in the tub and started to put it through the machine. The TSA guy working told me to remove the sleeve. I did without arguing or rolling my eyes at the policies for the first time in a long time. Walked through the WTMD and was then told by the TSA guy who told me about the sleeve to take my shoes off. I was already through and was then told to take my shoes off...hmmm...
Anyway, my question is this, if the X-ray machine can see through the aluminum skin and other metal insides of my laptop, would that tricky neoprene have blocked the X rays?
Also do the baggage X-rays we shove our stuff through only have X-ray capability or do they have some sort of sniffer capability to look for explosives? I ask because after I was through the WTMD and then was told to remove my shoes, I must have had a puzzled expression on my face because the TSA guy told me they weren't just looking for metal. So if they are looking for explosives in shoes, I can only surmise that the X-ray machines have built-in sniffers...if they don't then you have to wonder...
#2
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: USA
Posts: 1,017
Hi snapperhead,
An x-ray machine could have seen through your neoprene sleeve with no trouble. However, the TSA hasn't made sleeves an exception to its rule that computers must travel through the x-ray machine in a plastic bucket with nothing underneath them to pad the bumps along the conveyor belt. This is how people get their computers broken.
The current rule is that you can put items next to a computer, but not on top of it or underneath it, so that rules out your padded sleeve. Black-and-white regulations with no accomodation for reasonable variance are what you should expect from any government bureaucracy, not just the TSA.
The x-ray machine has no explosives detection ability. Supposedly, the x-raying of shoes is so they can detect hollow compartments inside the shoe that might be filled with explosives. Of course, as Spiff has argued thousands of times, the same volume of material could easily go into your rectum, and no one's checking that. So there is exactly zero security value to x-raying shoes, but remember - the TSA is about creating the appearance of security. Security theater is expensive and diverts resources from effective measures, but hey, enjoy the entertainment for what it is.
An x-ray machine could have seen through your neoprene sleeve with no trouble. However, the TSA hasn't made sleeves an exception to its rule that computers must travel through the x-ray machine in a plastic bucket with nothing underneath them to pad the bumps along the conveyor belt. This is how people get their computers broken.
The current rule is that you can put items next to a computer, but not on top of it or underneath it, so that rules out your padded sleeve. Black-and-white regulations with no accomodation for reasonable variance are what you should expect from any government bureaucracy, not just the TSA.
The x-ray machine has no explosives detection ability. Supposedly, the x-raying of shoes is so they can detect hollow compartments inside the shoe that might be filled with explosives. Of course, as Spiff has argued thousands of times, the same volume of material could easily go into your rectum, and no one's checking that. So there is exactly zero security value to x-raying shoes, but remember - the TSA is about creating the appearance of security. Security theater is expensive and diverts resources from effective measures, but hey, enjoy the entertainment for what it is.
#3
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: New York, NY
Posts: 1,673
Originally Posted by GradGirl
Hi snapperhead,
An x-ray machine could have seen through your neoprene sleeve with no trouble. However, the TSA hasn't made sleeves an exception to its rule that computers must travel through the x-ray machine in a plastic bucket with nothing underneath them to pad the bumps along the conveyor belt. This is how people get their computers broken.
The current rule is that you can put items next to a computer, but not on top of it or underneath it, so that rules out your padded sleeve. Black-and-white regulations with no accomodation for reasonable variance are what you should expect from any government bureaucracy, not just the TSA.
The x-ray machine has no explosives detection ability. Supposedly, the x-raying of shoes is so they can detect hollow compartments inside the shoe that might be filled with explosives. Of course, as Spiff has argued thousands of times, the same volume of material could easily go into your rectum, and no one's checking that. So there is exactly zero security value to x-raying shoes, but remember - the TSA is about creating the appearance of security. Security theater is expensive and diverts resources from effective measures, but hey, enjoy the entertainment for what it is.
An x-ray machine could have seen through your neoprene sleeve with no trouble. However, the TSA hasn't made sleeves an exception to its rule that computers must travel through the x-ray machine in a plastic bucket with nothing underneath them to pad the bumps along the conveyor belt. This is how people get their computers broken.
The current rule is that you can put items next to a computer, but not on top of it or underneath it, so that rules out your padded sleeve. Black-and-white regulations with no accomodation for reasonable variance are what you should expect from any government bureaucracy, not just the TSA.
The x-ray machine has no explosives detection ability. Supposedly, the x-raying of shoes is so they can detect hollow compartments inside the shoe that might be filled with explosives. Of course, as Spiff has argued thousands of times, the same volume of material could easily go into your rectum, and no one's checking that. So there is exactly zero security value to x-raying shoes, but remember - the TSA is about creating the appearance of security. Security theater is expensive and diverts resources from effective measures, but hey, enjoy the entertainment for what it is.
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Originally Posted by TSAMGR
Ah, now she's an expert.
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Originally Posted by GradGirl
However, the TSA hasn't made sleeves an exception to its rule that computers must travel through the x-ray machine in a plastic bucket with nothing underneath them to pad the bumps along the conveyor belt. This is how people get their computers broken.
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Anyway, my question is this, if the X-ray machine can see through the aluminum skin and other metal insides of my laptop, would that tricky neoprene have blocked the X rays?
Also do the baggage X-rays we shove our stuff through only have X-ray capability or do they have some sort of sniffer capability to look for explosives? I ask because after I was through the WTMD and then was told to remove my shoes, I must have had a puzzled expression on my face because the TSA guy told me they weren't just looking for metal. So if they are looking for explosives in shoes, I can only surmise that the X-ray machines have built-in sniffers...if they don't then you have to wonder...
Also do the baggage X-rays we shove our stuff through only have X-ray capability or do they have some sort of sniffer capability to look for explosives? I ask because after I was through the WTMD and then was told to remove my shoes, I must have had a puzzled expression on my face because the TSA guy told me they weren't just looking for metal. So if they are looking for explosives in shoes, I can only surmise that the X-ray machines have built-in sniffers...if they don't then you have to wonder...
#7
Join Date: Nov 2003
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Originally Posted by Dovster
Did she say anything that was incorrect? (I am not talking about opinions, but rather factual items.)
Originally Posted by GradGirl
The current rule is that you can put items next to a computer
#9
Join Date: Sep 2003
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It doesn't state items can be put next to the laptop.
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Originally Posted by GradGirl
However, the TSA hasn't made sleeves an exception to its rule that computers must travel through the x-ray machine in a plastic bucket with nothing underneath them to pad the bumps along the conveyor belt.

