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TomBascom Apr 20, 2004 9:41 pm

Sniffing shoes
 
Which is more likely to find contraband in shoes:

1) A Team of Trained Shoe Analysts?

2) A dog.

Which is the better use of taxpayer dollars?

I don't want to feel "secure". I want to be secure.

TakeScissorsAway Apr 20, 2004 9:49 pm


Originally Posted by TomBascom
Which is more likely to find contraband in shoes:

1) A Team of Trained Shoe Analysts?

2) A dog.

Which is the better use of taxpayer dollars?

I don't want to feel "secure". I want to be secure.

You will never be 100% secure on an aircraft, unless you board naked after a full body cavity search, and are not allowed carry-on or checked bags. Plus no maintanace to aircraft (including fuel) nor food service.

Spiff Apr 20, 2004 10:27 pm

A dog. At least I know the dog isn't a perv.

Next question?

swise Apr 21, 2004 1:23 am


Originally Posted by TakeScissorsAway
You will never be 100% secure on an aircraft, unless you board naked after a full body cavity search, and are not allowed carry-on or checked bags. Plus no maintanace to aircraft (including fuel) nor food service.

After you strip all the passengers, you'll have to suit them up in strait jackets and restraints. It only takes a few years of intensive training for someone to pose a security risk completely unarmed.

TomBascom Apr 21, 2004 7:11 am


Originally Posted by TakeScissorsAway
You will never be 100% secure on an aircraft, unless you board naked after a full body cavity search, and are not allowed carry-on or checked bags. Plus no maintanace to aircraft (including fuel) nor food service.

My goal isn't to be 100% secure. Unlike the TSA I know that isn't possible and I see no benefit in pretending otherwise. I just want the money being spent on security to be actually adding to security rather than detracting from it. It seems to me that they could replace at least 2 people at every shoe sniffing checkpoint with a well trained dog -- simultaneously improving security and either decreasing costs or redeploying people to higher value tasks.

TSAMGR Apr 21, 2004 11:37 am

The shoe sniffing checkpoints as you put it actually have walk though metal detectors and X-Ray machines so I guess they are metal sniffers and under wire bra finders.

A better technology would be the full body walk through scanners with the explosive trace detectors built in but the million dollar CTX machines took all the cash.

Spiff Apr 21, 2004 11:47 am

Unneeded Personnel are an even bigger WASTE
 

Originally Posted by TSAMGR
The shoe sniffing checkpoints as you put it actually have walk though metal detectors and X-Ray machines so I guess they are metal sniffers and under wire bra finders.

A better technology would be the full body walk through scanners with the explosive trace detectors built in but the million dollar CTX machines took all the cash.

So did those thousands of useless "shoe runners" Admiral Loy the Lying Workfare proponent insisted on hiring. I guess in that clown's eye, you can put a price on safety.

The better technology is the Sentinel II explosives detection system + the WTMD. There is no reason to hit anyone with more radiation and project an image of them onto a screen.

HigherFlyer Apr 21, 2004 11:52 am


Originally Posted by TSAMGR
The shoe sniffing checkpoints as you put it actually have walk though metal detectors and X-Ray machines so I guess they are metal sniffers and under wire bra finders.

A better technology would be the full body walk through scanners with the explosive trace detectors built in but the million dollar CTX machines took all the cash.

A better tecnology would be a divining rod and Tarot cards. :mad:

SNA_Flyer Apr 21, 2004 12:09 pm


Originally Posted by HigherFlyer
A better tecnology would be a divining rod and Tarot cards. :mad:

Don't give them any more ideas. Psychics are going to prevent the next terror strike!!!!

HigherFlyer Apr 21, 2004 12:25 pm


Originally Posted by SNA_Flyer
Don't give them any more ideas. Psychics are going to prevent the next terror strike!!!!

A psychic would get better results than SSSS.

TSAMGR Apr 21, 2004 3:24 pm


Originally Posted by HigherFlyer
A psychic would get better results than SSSS.

I thought we had Miss Cleo on the payroll...

TSAMGR Apr 21, 2004 3:25 pm


Originally Posted by Spiff
The better technology is the Sentinel II explosives detection system + the WTMD. There is no reason to hit anyone with more radiation and project an image of them onto a screen.

True, we radiate enough of their food as is.

Spiff Apr 21, 2004 4:17 pm

Apples and Oranges
 

Originally Posted by TSAMGR
True, we radiate enough of their food as is.

Do your research. Irradiated food does not confer radiation onto the person consuming it.

HigherFlyer Apr 21, 2004 5:40 pm


Originally Posted by TSAMGR
Everyone has a right to an opinion no matter how wrong it is.

roflmao! :D It's funny, because it's true! LOL! :mad:

TSAMGR Apr 22, 2004 8:57 pm


Originally Posted by Spiff
Do your research. Irradiated food does not confer radiation onto the person consuming it.


It was a joke Spiff. Take the bug out of your a$$.


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