I just can't wait 'till the next time Shrub tries to visit Spain! :D :eek: :D Hope he's got some KY in his carry on!

This isn't the model workplace environment :rolleyes: , get over it.

Model workplace, I laughed for nearly 5 mins. when my screening manager told me and all the other screeners that. Pure and utter BS.

Some of us didn't get the memo
 

Please let the rest of us in on the joke! :)

What does ANY of this devisive cr@p have to do with the prince of Spain?
PLEASE stay on topic. Some of us are trying to engage in a meaninful discussion of the TSA's outrageous incompetence in this debacle.

Higherflyer,

This topic has been derailed a few times now. I made my point on the subject and even agreed in the end that the Prince didn't need to go through it. Cactuspete and Spiff went at it for a few pages and TSAMGR decided to throw in a remark, which he usually does.

Anyway if you want to quote people as being off topic, how about everyone and not people that seem to argue against you?

Spiff, bdschobel have also gone off topic here but you don't quote them.

Even you were off topic.
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Like I said, my stance is this:

The Prince knew 72 hours notice was mandatory but instead gave 6 hours. The proper measures couldn't be rounded up in time it seems to help get him through the process the way he usually does. In my view, he didn't show respect to the United States in not following set guidelines but feels he should still be treated the way he's been treated before.

Should TSA still have a system to get these people screened out of view of the public, Yes. Because you put the guy at risk when you do so. So in one case TSA again dropped the ball but the TSA should have never been put in that position by the Prince, so in that case he dropped the ball.

Not so.
My post referred to "the TSA'hole from SDF_Traveller's post". Although somewhat tangental, it was still on topic.
Meanwhile no one has answered my question:
Why should we believe that they are capable of tracking terrorists, when they can't even keep track of our high profile guests? Are they going to know when the terrorists are coming? Or do they plan to just wait until the terrorists arrive and then sniff their shoes like everyone else? :rolleyes: And I again remind you that REAL terrorists will not give ANY notice, let alone 72 hours. :eek:

Yes, let's keep it in perspective. The Prince of Spain was searched,big deal. Congressmen and Congresswomen are searched also, are they not future presidents? Did the Prince's people confirm the security arrangements in the U.S.?????? If this guy is such a big shot, why didn't he have his own plane or rent a private aircraft? Sounds like the Prince's feelings got hurt. I bet that really affects the our political relationship. :rolleyes: Get real.

So I guess that means you don't have an answer. Just more bluster and posturing. :rolleyes:
How can we trust them to keep track of our enemies, when they can't even keep track of the Prince of Freakin' Spain? You keep saying he gave "only six hours" notice. Will the terrorists give more than six hours notice? Will the terrorists use their own airplane or rent a private aircraft? Will the terrorists give a rat's @$$ if 'congressmen and congresswomen' have been searched? Does the TSA REALLY beleive that Congressmen and Congresswomen need to take off their shoes and be groped? This circus only makes the terrorists grin, because the so-called 'security' is busy wanding feet and re-packing our bags for us. They are much too distracted to find real threats. :(

Yes, that's the real lesson here (and the same lesson that should have been learned in the Al Gore and other incidents that I mentioned earlier). The TSA has finite resources. Why waste them on people who are clearly not threats? Does that make any sense to anybody -- even the greatest TSA apologists? Wouldn't you rather have the TSA staff guarding airplanes -- really, doing anything else! -- than searching people like Al Gore and the Prince of Spain? Keep in mind that we pay for this foolishness with our tax dollars!!!

Bruce

Personally, I'm pleased it happened. The more ridiculous the TSA looks over time, the better. I'm pleased the lines are long and I hope they get longer. I hope that they hassle everyone that they can and that they become downright offensive. I hope that their actions become perceived as a serious national problem and we get some kind of reform.

Did they get Prince Albert in the can?!?

This discussion is about travel safety. Please leave body piercings out of it. :rolleyes:

This was completely off topic from the screening of the Prince.

SDF_Traveler's post came right from this post. So yes, HigherFlyer, you were off topic.

The screening of bare feet had no relation to the screening of the Prince, yet you still saw fit to involve your opinion. The topic was derailed by Heelaw, which I have no problem with.

But I'll answer your question:

We can't track terrorists, period. If we could, why is Bin Laden out there still?

Why should we even track high profile guests? Hell, we didn't even know the guy was on the way till he gave notice. And your argument to us is, we should have known he was coming? Why? What if he was just connecting through the airport to another place outside the US?

What the hell does screening of feet and a "TSA'Hole" have to do with screening the Prince. Did this TSA'Hole in SDF_Traveler's post make the Prince go through the screening?

Stay on topic please.

OK I'll play along. Where does it state that the TSA is responsible for tracking diplomats? Or for that matter where is the protocol for handling these matters? Hey, there is none. So the TSA was not wrong in the first place for checking this wanna be king who has no political pull in his country other than having his face put on a coffee cup. I guess he is not such a bigshot if nobody from the state department showed up. They don't freaking care about this guy.