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Nigel G Apr 5, 2011 11:39 am


Originally Posted by bluenotesro (Post 16163464)
I show up at the airport. Will I be interferring with the screening process?

Give it time....:mad:

You are definitely delaying the process for all the people who have to wait in the queue behind you.

How about this one? I book a flight at a busy time of day, instead of a slow time of day.

I thought about a police officer who issues a traffic ticket to a TSO driving to work, but this one would seem to be okay by the stated characterisation, as it doesn't involve a person going through the checkpoint.

If I say "I hate the TSA", and it upsets some of the TSOs, making them less able to work effectively, would that be actionable?

rgfloor Apr 5, 2011 12:27 pm


Originally Posted by eyecue (Post 16164915)
You are making it more difficult than it is. I am searching a bag, you keep reaching into the bag and intentionally impede me. I am on the x-ray and you come in screaming and yelling obscene remarks and I look to see what the commotion is about, you distracted me. I am patting you down and you begin to berate me with personal insults and tell me that I am sexually assaulting you, you have delayed me from performing a patdown.

And we thank you for clarifying what YOUR viewpoint is, now the question is what is the viewpoint of the 59,999 others screeners?

Do you see our point in bringing this up?

rgfloor Apr 5, 2011 12:34 pm


Originally Posted by eyecue (Post 16165000)
SOME ARE AND SOME ARE NOT. To test your questions ask yourself are you keeping someone from doing something that is part of their job?

And in most cases if you are keeping someone from doing their job it is because of "trying to get them to do their job correctly". eg. asking for new gloves, asking them to accept the NEXXUS ID, requesting to be able to see your belongings, refusing to answer questions about money which are inappropriate, etc.

RichardKenner Apr 5, 2011 2:52 pm


Originally Posted by eyecue (Post 16164915)
I am searching a bag, you keep reaching into the bag and intentionally impede me.

Agreed.


I am on the x-ray and you come in screaming and yelling obscene remarks and I look to see what the commotion is about, you distracted me.
Unclear. Obscene remarks may or may not be protected speech, but yelling can can indeed cross the line.


I am patting you down and you begin to berate me with personal insults and tell me that I am sexually assaulting you, you have delayed me from performing a patdown.
Definitely not against the law! Verbally protesting a governmental act is the most protected of all speech!

average_passenger Apr 5, 2011 3:18 pm


Originally Posted by goalie (Post 16163289)
And you never will :td: as the TSA will use "SSI" as a catch all for what they don't want to tell you/what they don't want you to know-even if the information has absolutely no impact on or is absolutely no threat to nash'nul skewrity whatsoever :rolleyes:

Bolding mine: Yup ^ and I can't wait for a pax to be arrested for interfering with the screening process because they gave a middle digit salute while in the NoS. :rolleyes:

I know someone who has done the middle finger salute while in the scanner. Let's hope that they are not on the no-fly list now!!! :(

I like the idea of the poster (I forgot what thread it was in) but he only nods or shakes his head, he doesn't even talk to any of the TSO's but he looks into their eyes.

Loren Pechtel Apr 5, 2011 3:38 pm


Originally Posted by eyecue (Post 16165000)
SOME ARE AND SOME ARE NOT. To test your questions ask yourself are you keeping someone from doing something that is part of their job?

You should have answered the separate questions.

n4zhg Apr 5, 2011 5:54 pm


Originally Posted by eyecue (Post 16165000)
SOME ARE AND SOME ARE NOT. To test your questions ask yourself are you keeping someone from doing something that is part of their job?

Stop avoiding the question.

yautjalady Apr 5, 2011 6:46 pm


Originally Posted by eyecue (Post 16161120)
I see that no one took any hints from your last sentence.
Anyway as a person that is traveling through a checkpoint if YOU do ANYTHING that intentionally delays, impedes or distracts a TSO from executing their assigned duties, you are interfering with the screening process.

If a deaf person goes thru the WTMD and it either alarms or they can't hear instructions, is THAT "interfering with the screening process"?

Deafness is a handicap that can't be seen.

It drives some normal-hearing folks bonkers to have to deal with it.

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yautjalady

scraidin Apr 5, 2011 6:50 pm

could refusal to speak english with the smurfs be construed as interference, or if the dialect of english i choose to speak isnt understood by the smurfs, would that be interference?

phoebepontiac Apr 5, 2011 7:55 pm

If I object to any part of the enhanced screening because it is causing me pain (either from a condition/disability or because the screener is too rough), is that interfering with the screening process?

exbayern Apr 5, 2011 7:59 pm


Originally Posted by phoebepontiac (Post 16167698)
If I object to any part of the enhanced screening because it is causing me pain (either from a condition/disability or because the screener is too rough), is that interfering with the screening process?

I have been told that the answer is yes, and according to what eyecue has posted I take it that he agrees?

For instance, when I am selected for a secondary screening I always tell the screener that I am unable to do XYZ. Several times the screener almost immediately tells me to do XYZ. I repeat calmly and slowly that I am physically unable to do XYZ.

This has caused several screeners to become very angry with me and I have been told that I am interfering with the screening process.

It is just one more example of many, many TSOs being unable to understand the variables of dealing with passengers (gender, nationality, physical limitations, cognitive limitations, etc)

InkUnderNails Apr 5, 2011 9:57 pm


Originally Posted by eyecue (Post 16165000)
SOME ARE AND SOME ARE NOT. To test your questions ask yourself are you keeping someone from doing something that is part of their job?

I truly do not know. That is why I asked. If you do not know or can not tell me, we are in worse shape than I thought. These are specific areas where there are questions and you either refuse to answer on can not answer. Simple yes or no or it depends will suffice.

Wally Bird Apr 6, 2011 8:14 am


Originally Posted by InkUnderNails (Post 16168240)
These are specific areas where there are questions and you either refuse to answer on can not answer. Simple yes or no or it depends will suffice.

I think his 'answer' was that it depends.

On what it depends you can surmise for yourself.
Day of the week
'R' in the month
what the checkpoint worker had for breakfast
the weather
phase of the moon
Broncos lost
etc...

mikemey Apr 6, 2011 8:25 am


Originally Posted by eyecue (Post 16165000)
SOME ARE AND SOME ARE NOT. To test your questions ask yourself are you keeping someone from doing something that is part of their job?

Answer the damned questions and knock off the double speak.

They're straightforward and easy questions.

Boggie Dog Apr 6, 2011 8:37 am


Originally Posted by mikemey (Post 16170078)
Answer the damned questions and knock off the double speak.

They're straightforward and easy questions.

Not for people who refuse to engage in honest discussion.


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