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Caradoc Mar 17, 2011 2:29 pm


Originally Posted by DeafBlonde (Post 16053603)
Gotcha!
I suppose insult won't work either: "Did you know that you have really bad breath? Do you ever brush your teeth?"

It might, but I doubt it.

nachtnebel Mar 17, 2011 2:57 pm


Originally Posted by ElizabethConley (Post 16052564)

A scar that simply effects the skin usually will not register as an irregularity.

"Register" by who or what? If ATR, then the machine is doing the "registering".

If AIT, esp backscatter, the TSA agent looking at your naked image is doing the "registering". What do you think he's looking at? Of course they render scars, as well as belly buttons and genitals and anything else you've got under your kimono. That much is clear from the low res images that have been released.

There is a reason the actual high res images and zooms have never been released. Think about it. If TSA thought that this would help their cause, do you think for a minute they would refrain from publishing a sample image?

Boggie Dog Mar 17, 2011 3:01 pm


Originally Posted by nachtnebel (Post 16053897)
"Register" by who or what? If ATR, then the machine is doing the "registering".

If AIT, esp backscatter, the TSA agent looking at your naked image is doing the "registering". What do you think he's looking at? Of course they render scars, as well as belly buttons and genitals and anything else you've got under your kimono. That much is clear from the low res images that have been released.

There is a reason the actual high res images and zooms have never been released. Think about it. If TSA thought that this would help their cause, do you think for a minute they would refrain from publishing a sample image?

I think the sledge hammer sized clue is the requirement that TSA places on removing everything from pockets even scraps of paper. If the Strip Search Machine can image a scrap of paper then I see no reason some scars won't show up.

nachtnebel Mar 17, 2011 3:14 pm


Originally Posted by Boggie Dog (Post 16053926)
I think the sledge hammer sized clue is the requirement that TSA places on removing everything from pockets even scraps of paper. If the Strip Search Machine can image a scrap of paper then I see no reason some scars won't show up.

agree. They can tell whether you were eligible for a bar mitzvah or not based on what they can see of your family heirlooms. They could probably tell you who your doctor was.

pinkcat Mar 17, 2011 3:24 pm


Originally Posted by Boggie Dog (Post 16053926)
I think the sledge hammer sized clue is the requirement that TSA places on removing everything from pockets even scraps of paper. If the Strip Search Machine can image a scrap of paper then I see no reason some scars won't show up.

crikey,
I have 9% of my body scarred and skin and muscle grafts, my legs are quite irregular, at least I wont be able to feel the pat down when I opt out

Caradoc Mar 17, 2011 9:17 pm


Originally Posted by nachtnebel (Post 16054011)
agree. They can tell whether you were eligible for a bar mitzvah or not based on what they can see of your family heirlooms. They could probably tell you who your doctor was.

"That mohel, Kofsky, he always did cut on the bias..."

BubbaLoop Mar 18, 2011 3:48 am


Originally Posted by Boggie Dog (Post 16052162)
TSA's AIT Strip Search Machines violate screening guidelines for exactly the reason you question, they do not detect WEI but do detect body anomalies that are no threat and no business of TSA.

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