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FriendlySkies Feb 28, 2011 9:58 pm

FRA Security -- Question/Experiences
 
I'll be taking a trip to Germany on Friday, departing on Sunday :cool: What should I expect in terms of security? I don't have FRA on the list of airports with the Nude-O-Scope, so I am unsure of their current condition. Have they gotten MMW? Seems like AMS will permit people to opt-out. If FRA is operating the machines, will they allow the same?

As far as shoes/laptop/liquids, are they playing along with that nonsense, or are they civilized like most of the world, and will let me keep my shoes on?

Thanks ^

William S Feb 28, 2011 10:20 pm

You cannot take liquids through security, so the rules are basically same as in the US for that. Never had an issue with shoes in European airports so it is okey to keep on. You have to, as in the US, take your laptop out. The big difference is that it is not the TSA who runs the security business there, so pat downs are done in a professional manner if you are so unlucky to be selected for random or set off the WTMD.

bluenotesro Feb 28, 2011 11:34 pm

Frankfurt is usually a breeze. Professional yet generally stress-free.

FriendlySkies Feb 28, 2011 11:37 pm

Have either of you seen Nude-O-Scopes?

tjobbe Feb 28, 2011 11:49 pm

there are no Nude-O-Scope machines active in Germany beside the MMW test set in HAM so you will not encounter any hazzle.

Laptop out, no liquid etc is standard in Europe so you have to live with that, but you can leave shoes and belt on. In case you set off the alarm you might get a pat down (as well as they select random flyers for it more frequently now) but you will encounter the security checks as more professional then TSA ones.

Cheers, Tjobbe

FriendlySkies Mar 1, 2011 12:14 am

Excellent ^. As far as liquids, is it 3.4oz or less, or do you mean absolutely no liquids may go through the checkpoint?

N830MH Mar 1, 2011 12:18 am


Originally Posted by FriendlySkies (Post 15951983)
Excellent ^. As far as liquids, is it 3.4oz or less, or do you mean absolutely no liquids may go through the checkpoint?

Yes, that is correct. You can brings small amount 3.4oz liquid and you can kept it inside the bags. You are required to take off the shoes at checkpoints same as USA. You have to empty the pockets. If you take off the watches and when you go through the metal detector and you won't hear the beep. They will put you into secondary screening and they will random you.

exbayern Mar 1, 2011 12:20 am


Originally Posted by FriendlySkies (Post 15951877)
Have either of you seen Nude-O-Scopes?

No. Common sense is still in place. 100ml liquids are permitted in a 1 litre bag just like your 3.4 oz are permitted. No need to remove shoes. I have never needed to remove my watch. I'm not sure why a few posters have told you 'no liquids' as the 100-1-1 or 3.4-1-1 rules apply and you can certainly take liquids in those amounts past security.

US bound on US carrier expect a little 'security interview' and 'extra security' at the 'request' of TSA :rolleyes: which may include a few basic questions.

FriendlySkies Mar 1, 2011 12:54 am

I love those security interviews! Especially the ones I've had at LHR :rolleyes:

Thanks!

William S Mar 1, 2011 2:16 am


Originally Posted by FriendlySkies (Post 15952081)
I love those security interviews! Especially the ones I've had at LHR :rolleyes:

Thanks!

Which is why you stick to the non US carriers when flying to the USA... It is like avoiding El Al when going to Israel.

Scrooge McDuck Mar 1, 2011 3:42 am


Originally Posted by N830MH (Post 15951997)
You are required to take off the shoes at checkpoints same as USA.

I never had to take my shoes off in FRA, except for US bound flights.

I had the impression that the checks were a little bit relaxed. But that could change anytime without prior warning. Further on, it looked like they removed some extra screening machines on some gates in the B-Terminal, especially for the BUS gates. I even could bring an open bottle of water on board which I bought in the sterile area.

exbayern Mar 1, 2011 8:56 am


Originally Posted by FriendlySkies (Post 15952081)
I love those security interviews! Especially the ones I've had at LHR :rolleyes:

Thanks!

I know that I have whinged about it here before, but it irks me that in Germany at a German airport German passengers are being 'interviewed' in English by contractors who sometimes cannot manage more than broken German.

My favourite stupid questions recently for UA flights were 'do you have any electronics in your carry on luggage?' and 'what did you purchase at the airport today?'. I had to bite my tongue and not give a smart reply to the first question, and as MUC has that huge shopping area in the central part of the terminal after getting off the S-bahn and before check in or security, I could see people having to give rather lengthy replies.

I don't see what purpose the 'extra security' provides other than perhaps to gauge nervousness but if someone is asking me the questions in broken German they most likely are not as focussed on me but rather struggling to ask the questions and understand the responses.

Sorry for the rant, but it does puzzle me!

nachtnebel Mar 1, 2011 9:57 am


Originally Posted by exbayern (Post 15953868)
I know that I have whinged about it here before, but it irks me that in Germany at a German airport German passengers are being 'interviewed' in English by contractors who sometimes cannot manage more than broken German.

My favourite stupid questions recently for UA flights were 'do you have any electronics in your carry on luggage?' and 'what did you purchase at the airport today?'. I had to bite my tongue and not give a smart reply to the first question, and as MUC has that huge shopping area in the central part of the terminal after getting off the S-bahn and before check in or security, I could see people having to give rather lengthy replies.

I don't see what purpose the 'extra security' provides other than perhaps to gauge nervousness but if someone is asking me the questions in broken German they most likely are not as focussed on me but rather struggling to ask the questions and understand the responses.

Sorry for the rant, but it does puzzle me!

since their German is so bad, wouldn't that be an opportune time to provide them with some sophisticated insults in your native language in a polite tone of voice...

thebat Mar 1, 2011 5:25 pm


Originally Posted by nachtnebel (Post 15954282)
since their German is so bad, wouldn't that be an opportune time to provide them with some sophisticated insults in your native language in a polite tone of voice...

That's pretty funny. Watch out how loud you speak though. The 'comrads' who are more fluent may be listening.

exbayern Mar 1, 2011 6:34 pm


Originally Posted by nachtnebel (Post 15954282)
since their German is so bad, wouldn't that be an opportune time to provide them with some sophisticated insults in your native language in a polite tone of voice...

One of them was a little pissy with me because I didn't respond when she was calling out 'ma'am' from several metres away. I continued to have a polite, low toned conversation with her in German while she kept asking me things in English and told her that since she was in Germany, at a German airport, speaking to German passengers she could ask me the questions in German and I would be happy to answer her questions in German.

If I showed up at an airport in the US and was asked questions in Mandarin, I would politely suggest that they ask me questions in English.


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