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ESpen36 Mar 1, 2011 8:18 pm

Just to warn you, I have found that the German WTMDs are calibrated to be more sensitive than TSA's WTMDs. So, I can walk though with my belt on in the States, but for some reason it always sets off the WTMDs in Germany (and Europe more broadly).

Not sure about shoes. I always take mine off to avoid the chance that some metal studd in the heel will set off the WTMD.

nachtnebel Mar 1, 2011 9:30 pm


Originally Posted by exbayern (Post 15957684)
One of them was a little pissy with me because I didn't respond when she was calling out 'ma'am' from several metres away. I continued to have a polite, low toned conversation with her in German while she kept asking me things in English and told her that since she was in Germany, at a German airport, speaking to German passengers she could ask me the questions in German and I would be happy to answer her questions in German.

If I showed up at an airport in the US and was asked questions in Mandarin, I would politely suggest that they ask me questions in English.

I hope you kept speaking German only, let them figure *you* out, since they were in *your* country. wie gehts, dumi dumi....

N830MH Mar 1, 2011 10:29 pm


Originally Posted by Scrooge McDuck (Post 15952483)
I never had to take my shoes off in FRA, except for US bound flights.

I had the impression that the checks were a little bit relaxed. But that could change anytime without prior warning. Further on, it looked like they removed some extra screening machines on some gates in the B-Terminal, especially for the BUS gates. I even could bring an open bottle of water on board which I bought in the sterile area.

In Switzerland does have to required take off the shoes in ZRH, GVA, BSL and few others, too. You are required take off the shoes in FRA. If security agent will tell you if you are required take off the shoes. I have been experience through security in ZRH for 3 times. Never have been any problems at all. I didn't removes the watch and I remember last time that I went through checkpoint. I hear the beep and he & I were escorted me into the private room and he wand me and he pat me down. I didn't have any suspicious problems at all.

N1120A Mar 2, 2011 5:30 am


Originally Posted by FriendlySkies (Post 15951983)
Excellent ^. As far as liquids, is it 3.4oz or less, or do you mean absolutely no liquids may go through the checkpoint?

100ml, 1 liter bag. Same as the US. And you can leave it in your bag the last I checked. Indeed, I love the metric system on this both because of the 100ml size as well as the larger bag. I always get my freedom baggies in Canada.


Originally Posted by exbayern (Post 15957684)
One of them was a little pissy with me because I didn't respond when she was calling out 'ma'am' from several metres away. I continued to have a polite, low toned conversation with her in German while she kept asking me things in English and told her that since she was in Germany, at a German airport, speaking to German passengers she could ask me the questions in German and I would be happy to answer her questions in German.

If I showed up at an airport in the US and was asked questions in Mandarin, I would politely suggest that they ask me questions in English.

Gotta love that idiocy. I speak German fluently and was getting on a LH flight back to the US in the summer of 2002 after spending 6 weeks studying German in Berlin and Vienna. They were doing those stupid pre-boarding passport checks and interviews and I naturally wanted to speak a bit more German before heading back to the Land of the Monolingual. The lady started talking to me in English while looking at my US passport and I responded in German. She actually asked me why I was speaking German. I rolled my eyes and responded, in German, the obvious fact that we were in Germany. She had some American guy come over to "speak American" to me. Turns out he was from Sacramento and I made fun of his hometown a bit - he took my passport and processed me ahead of the rest of the line while the dumb woman asked "is everything ok" and he said "That guy? He's fine."

catandmouse Mar 2, 2011 5:55 am

Liquids in 100 ml containers in a 1 l plastic bag. Shoes don't come off unless they ask you. You can tell US passengers as they're the only ones who take their shoes off:D
In Germany, belts usually have to come off. As others have said the WTMD are set very sensitively, so it won't take much to alarm them. If you do alarm them, you'll get a pat down, but it's done at once, no barking for "male assists" or whatever. The lines seem to move OK and I've never waited very long. At FRA everyone seems to be significantly ruder than at MUC, so if you have a choice, MUC is preferred (and it's a much nicer airport in any case).

exbayern Mar 2, 2011 9:48 am


Originally Posted by catandmouse (Post 15959902)
At FRA everyone seems to be significantly ruder than at MUC, so if you have a choice, MUC is preferred (and it's a much nicer airport in any case).

My sentiments exactly, and I often say that here - avoid FRA when MUC is an option. At MUC the security also includes pleasantries along with just the normal 'please' and 'thank you'. I wouldn't call FRA 'rude', just 'German' ;) but MUC generally has 'Gemütlichkeit'.

Hopefully todays sad events won't change things very significantly; there was already a visible presence at German airports.


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