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Cartoon Peril Feb 15, 2011 4:30 am

Why does TSA require palms be held up during search?
 
TSA seems to have a requirement that when undergoing the intrusive physical search, the arms be extended straight out and the arms be rotated so that the palms are up. See accounts here, here, and here (in comments), and here.

Extending the arms full out and rotating the palms up becomes tiring and painful. It must be particularly so for older persons. It would be much easier to hold the palms down with the arms extended.

What is the point of requiring this particular posture?

stifle Feb 15, 2011 4:53 am

I'm sure there's an abundance of caution involved :cool:

Seriously? I don't know. I imagine it's to make it immediately obvious if someone has palmed some contraband.

polonius Feb 15, 2011 5:12 am


Originally Posted by Cartoon Peril (Post 15866776)
TSA seems to have a requirement that when undergoing the intrusive physical search, the arms be extended straight out and the arms be rotated so that the palms are up. See accounts here, here, and here (in comments), and here.

Extending the arms full out and rotating the palms up becomes tiring and painful. It must be particularly so for older persons. It would be much easier to hold the palms down with the arms extended.

What is the point of requiring this particular posture?

It's a gesture of complete submission to the TSA and a sign that you unquestioningly accept the authority of their overlord, Osama bin Laden.

BubbaLoop Feb 15, 2011 5:24 am

They do it because they can. It is a show of force, and a test of public submission acceptance.

scraidin Feb 15, 2011 5:28 am

they do it coz the sky is falling

InkUnderNails Feb 15, 2011 5:37 am

Interesting. I've never been ask to do this. It may be because I tell them I am hearing impaired and that I will not be able to hear their instructions. I tell them if they want me to raise my arms, just lift them slightly, I will feel it and raise them straight out. When they want them down, I tell tell to to put a little pressure on the top and I will lower them. It eliminates vocal communication and it gets the job done. The turning over part may get too complicated for them.

doober Feb 15, 2011 6:04 am

I have posited in the past that it's to make it more difficult for the victim to bring his/her arm down and slug the person assaulting him/her.

ElizabethConley Feb 15, 2011 6:14 am


Originally Posted by doober (Post 15867037)
I have posited in the past that it's to make it more difficult for the victim to bring his/her arm down and slug the person assaulting him/her.

Maybe they believe that. It may be true if their molestee has no martial arts training, but if the person they're mauling does have self defense skills it makes no difference whatsoever.:D

FLgrr Feb 15, 2011 6:15 am


Originally Posted by doober (Post 15867037)
I have posited in the past that it's to make it more difficult for the victim to bring his/her arm down and slug the person assaulting him/her.

Also so you know they are empty, not something hiding between the fingers even when the fingers are outstretched.

DeafBlonde Feb 15, 2011 6:18 am


Originally Posted by doober (Post 15867037)
I have posited in the past that it's to make it more difficult for the victim to bring his/her arm down and slug the person assaulting him/her.

^ That would be my guess!! :D

InkUnderNails Feb 15, 2011 6:19 am

He is already on his knees to check my butt, just look up at my hands while while down there.

FliesWay2Much Feb 15, 2011 6:27 am

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DeafBlonde Feb 15, 2011 6:36 am


Originally Posted by FliesWay2Much (Post 15867118)
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It's strange...I must have some sort of hockey injury from years ago. When I'm in this position, the only finger I can extend is my middle finger. This condition greatly improves the farther away from an airport I happen to be.

^^^ (LMFAO!) You should explain to your molester that this is a chronic condition that affects a lot of FF'ers (except sheeple). :D

FliesWay2Much Feb 15, 2011 6:38 am

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FrequentFlyer9000 Feb 15, 2011 6:38 am

So that it is easier to give you a high-five.


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