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-   -   Primer cartridges (for bullets) explodes in luggage, causing scare. (https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/practical-travel-safety-security-issues/1165096-primer-cartridges-bullets-explodes-luggage-causing-scare.html)

MikeMpls Dec 28, 2010 5:06 pm


Originally Posted by FlyingUnderTheRadar (Post 15538794)
This statement does not make sense to me. Ammunition by its very nature has a primer and is allowed but primers by themselves are not?? Is it because primers can fire more easily when they are not in a cartridge??

Yes, when they are not packaged & handled properly.

cordelli Dec 28, 2010 6:50 pm

Mister Smith?

yes?

Sorry to tell you that your bag exploded when they put it down on the tarmac. It was your can of hairspray.

Oh thank God, I had somewhere between 500 and 700 bullet primers in there, that would have been a real mess

CDTraveler Dec 28, 2010 7:07 pm


Originally Posted by cordelli (Post 15537850)
I travel with near empty cans of starch to iron shirts with

Now that is the weirdest statement in this whole thread! ;)

In 2010, somebody still irons shirts with starch, let alone does it while traveling? :confused:

RadioGirl Dec 28, 2010 7:10 pm

aerosols?
 
Okay, I'm a bit late to this thread and it's now turned out to be primers, but has there been a crack-down on aerosols lately? Travelling in Australia (domestic) and SYD/HKG/Europe in October and November, I've been asked almost every time if I had aerosols in my carry-on. (Note these are airports with reasonable and efficient security checkpoints.) Figured it must have been a recent thing. :confused:

VH-RMD Dec 28, 2010 7:15 pm


Originally Posted by RadioGirl (Post 15539528)
Okay, I'm a bit late to this thread and it's now turned out to be primers, but has there been a crack-down on aerosols lately? Travelling in Australia (domestic) and SYD/HKG/Europe in October and November, I've been asked almost every time if I had aerosols in my carry-on. (Note these are airports with reasonable and efficient security checkpoints.) Figured it must have been a recent thing. :confused:

I know the Australian paranoia happened after some incident on a DJ flight earlier in the year where an aerosol in cabin baggage leaked and people thought they may be being gassed (bogan overreactions)...

Affection Dec 28, 2010 7:26 pm

lol...


Officials believe when the baggage handler sat the bag down on the ground, it caused one of the bullet primers to rupture and explode, which ignited a chain reaction among the other tiny pieces of metal.
Reality:


The baggage handler through the bag from the plane to the ground, which caused one of the bullet primers to rupture and explode, which ignited a chain reaction among the other tiny pieces of metal.
--Jon

cordelli Dec 28, 2010 7:28 pm


Originally Posted by CDTraveler (Post 15539517)
Now that is the weirdest statement in this whole thread! ;)

In 2010, somebody still irons shirts with starch, let alone does it while traveling? :confused:

If there's a need for a dress shirt, yes to both questions. I much prefer cotton, and while most of the time they arrive fine and wrinkle free, occasionally a bit of touch up is necessary.

RatherBeOnATrain Dec 28, 2010 7:59 pm


Originally Posted by SeattleRob (Post 15538208)
The CBS affiliate in Miami is now reporting that it was not an aerosol can, but actually blasting caps:

http://miami.cbslocal.com/2010/12/28...in-bag-at-mia/

From the link:
The bags were being unloaded at Gate D-17 from American Airlines flight 2585 from Boston when the explosion occurred. Officials say the man who was bound for Jamaica had hundreds of blasting caps in his luggage and when one cap ignited others followed.


It seems to me that the man who was arrested will have a real easy defense: simply demand that the prosecution prove that it was he who put the blasting caps in the luggage. Since the TSA, baggage handlers and thousands of others have employee badges that allow them to skip the security checkpoints and carry whatever they want into the "sterile area", it should be very easy for a defense attorney to show reasonable doubt.

intl_flyer Dec 28, 2010 8:02 pm

sun screen
 
lost all my sunscreen to tsa

goalie Dec 28, 2010 8:46 pm


Originally Posted by Caradoc (Post 15538756)

Originally Posted by goalie (Post 15538681)
So how come this was missed by the TSA at BOS? Aren't 100% of checked bags now screened? Discuss whilst I hurl...

Obviously, the current magic lanterns that the TSA uses are not the right ones, so they need to spend a few billion more dollars on the "right scanners."

Bolding mine: You do realize that this was at BOS and since lanterns were used in the Old North Church to alert the colonists that the British were coming 234 years ago and that worked, maybe the TSA should get those lanterns? ;)

RadioGirl Dec 28, 2010 8:57 pm


Originally Posted by VH-RMD (Post 15539561)
I know the Australian paranoia happened after some incident on a DJ flight earlier in the year where an aerosol in cabin baggage leaked and people thought they may be being gassed (bogan overreactions)...

Thanks, that make sense. Well, not really "sense", but, umm, you know... :p

Originally Posted by goalie (Post 15539976)
Bolding mine: You do realize that this was at BOS and since lanterns were used in the Old North Church to alert the colonists that the British were coming 234 years ago and that worked, maybe the TSA should get those lanterns? ;)

Even unlit, those lanterns are brighter than the idjits at TSA HQ. (And BTW, your accent isn't as convincing as it was a few days ago. :D:D:D )

robtking Dec 28, 2010 9:22 pm

UPDATE If you re-visit the link, it turns out it wasn't hairspray, more so bullets.

The unidentified 37-year-old man had 500 to 700 bullet primers in his luggage. Primers are considered the "spark plugs" of a bullet and ignites the gun powder, projecting it toward the intended target.

FriendlySkies Dec 28, 2010 9:40 pm


Originally Posted by goalie (Post 15538681)
So how come this was missed by the TSA at BOS? Aren't 100% of checked bags now screened? Discuss whilst I hurl...

Good question! Now I'll distract you with a false answer ;)

goalie Dec 28, 2010 10:06 pm


Originally Posted by RadioGirl
...Even unlit, those lanterns are brighter that the idjits at TSA HQ. (And BTW, your accent isn't as convincing as it was a few days ago. :D:D:D )

Sorry-dealing with all the rain has made of a bit tiyid ;)

birdstrike Dec 28, 2010 10:13 pm


Originally Posted by Lara21 (Post 15538604)
I wonder what kind of new screening is going to be implimented by TSA/DHS after this incident. Because we all know everytime something happens they react after the fact. The problem is that what ever new screening they impliment. It just won't be the right kind of screening to find the item that can go kaboom. It will be the kind to inconvience the passengers even more.

You could fit quite a few primers in a body cavity. . .


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