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How many of us are in the databases?
http://projects.washingtonpost.com/t.../?hpid=topnews
This entire article makes my blood boil. I wonder how many of us are in this database because we took a stand for our Constitutional rights while flying. Our only crime being that we didn't want to get irradiated or groped. Suspicious Activity Report N03821 says a local law enforcement officer observed "a suspicious subject . . . taking photographs of the Orange County Sheriff Department Fire Boat and the Balboa Ferry with a cellular phone camera." ... He was then met by another person, both of whom stood and "observed the boat traffic in the harbor." Next another adult with two small children joined them, and then they all boarded the ferry and crossed the channel. All of this information was forwarded to the Los Angeles fusion center for further investigation after the local officer ran information about the vehicle and its owner through several crime databases and found nothing. As of December, there were 161,948 suspicious activity files in the classified Guardian database. Of those, 103 have become full investigations that have resulted in at least five arrests, the FBI said. There have been no convictions yet. |
She [Napolitano] recently enlisted the help of Wal-Mart, Amtrak, major sports leagues, hotel chains and metro riders. In her speeches, she compares the undertaking to the Cold War fight against communists. ~~ Irish |
Originally Posted by bnJ987
(Post 15487074)
I wonder how many of us are in this database because we took a stand for our Constitutional rights while flying.
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To put a little perspective here, it's very likely that the reporter for the article had access to numerous such reports and the one that was chosen here was "the worst". So trying to generalize all the reports as being similar to the one that was reported is undoubtably wrong.
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DHS wrote this little gem:
http://www.fas.org/irp/eprint/rightwing.pdf (U) Disgruntled Military Veterans (U//FOUO) DHS/I&A assesses that rightwing extremists will attempt to recruit and radicalize returning veterans in order to exploit their skills and knowledge derived from military training and combat. These skills and knowledge have the potential to boost the capabilities of extremists—including lone wolves or small terrorist cells—to carry out violence. The willingness of a small percentage of military personnel to join extremist groups during the 1990s because they were disgruntled, disillusioned, or suffering from the psychological effects of war is being replicated today. |
Originally Posted by IrishDoesntFlyNow
(Post 15487105)
Shades of Joe McCarthy.
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Suspicious Activity Report N03821 says a local law enforcement officer observed "a suspicious subject . . . taking photographs of the Orange County Sheriff Department Fire Boat and the Balboa Ferry with a cellular phone camera." ... He was then met by another person, both of whom stood and "observed the boat traffic in the harbor." Next another adult with two small children joined them, and then they all boarded the ferry and crossed the channel. Or does it just not matter because I'm Caucasian? Pardon my French, but WTH? :confused: :confused: :confused: |
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...show_article=1
Govt 'creating vast domestic snooping machine' Dec 20 07:27 AM US/Eastern The government is creating a vast domestic spying network to collect information about Americans in the wake of the September 11, 2001 attacks and subsequent terror plots, The Washington Post reported Monday. |
This appears to be a continuation of The Washington Post's TSA (Top Secret America) stories. There's an opportunity to correlate the world of top-secret portions of America, and the sterile area managed by the TSA. In that bubble, the normal rules don't apply. :)
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Originally Posted by RichardKenner
(Post 15487167)
To put a little perspective here, it's very likely that the reporter for the article had access to numerous such reports and the one that was chosen here was "the worst". So trying to generalize all the reports as being similar to the one that was reported is undoubtably wrong.
YMMV of course. |
Richard Nixon would be proud.
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I know that I am in a database or two. After my shirt incident at MCI, I discovered that a formal report was written up.. Good thing they did notnget my name when I was there!
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Originally Posted by Wally Bird
(Post 15487749)
To add even more perspective, 5 arrests from 161,000 reports might indicate this is a collosal waste of effort. Not to mention an egregious assault on liberty. :mad:
YMMV of course. |
Originally Posted by Global_Hi_Flyer
(Post 15488213)
Richard Nixon would be proud.
Tell me again who "won" that there Cold War? I am having trouble telling the sides apart. Was it Eastasia or was it . . . |
Originally Posted by Michilander
(Post 15488927)
Even worse, 5 arrests and NO convictions. This is a VERY distrubing report. I can hear Huxley now, "Looks like I was off by 26 years."
I don't remember if Huxley specified the year of the Brave New World, but the Orwellian nightmare of 1984 is definitely invading reality. |
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