Conversely, if you're using crap bait that the fish don't want, you're 4 times as likely not to catch fish.

Oh... No. You would most likely be in correct. In 99% of the case there is signage posted in front of the machines.(please don't post back saying that the signs are after the machine or not there at all, because I know it has happened in the past) The problem is that most people fail to read any type of sign. I get asked questions that are all answered on the posted signage at the checkpoint. Last week a female came through the AIT and after she stepped out asked "So, what is that thing? What does it do?" I of course explained to here what it was. She replied that she did not want to go through it. (ummmm... too late??) Why didn't she ask someone before going into it?? Better yet why didn't she read the signs? The first line in bold print on one of the 3 signs says "The use of this technology is voluntary." That statement is also on one other signs which are posted on both sides of the AIT unit.

In no way is the signage confusing. If you would like I can post photos of the signs. And then you can tell me which part is confusing, maybe I can help you to understand it a little bit better.

I can't speak for ORD, but in the airports I've been to recently, the signage is completely ineffective.

The signs I have seen are no larger than an 8.5" x 11" sheet of standard size paper. The words stating that the technology is optional are, most certainly, not in a bold typeface. In regards to the typeface it appears to be a standard 12 pt. font. The problem with choosing this size font is that, again in the airports I have transited, the signage is either not in an appropriate place, or placed in such a manner as to be unreadable by the people approaching the WBI machine.

Case in point - I have seen signage for the WBI on the stanchions for the line leading to the ...drumroll please... WTMD. Now, what good does this signage do there? I have also seen signage placed on a WTMD/WBI shared line where the signage is placed in such a way so as to be at the backs of the people approaching the WBI. Just curious, does TSA believe that terrorists have eyes in the backs of their heads? That is the only explanation for this poor placement of obligatory signage.

Sure, the signs are there. Sure, the signs are prior to the machine. Where TSA has failed, again, is that while living up to the letter of the law, they have completely ignored the spirit of it for their own apparent purposes.

I welcome you to post a picture of the sign. If allowed to take pictures I will show you where the signs are poorly placed.

What about the images that are posted on the machine itself! By the time those are seen, if they even are, it's way too late.

Please, please take pictures of the improperly/poorly placed signs. TSA can't stop you from doing it, although they will try. But maybe you could get them to back off if you tell them that you are taking pictures to prove to your disbelieving friends that proper signage doesn't exist. :D

Must be a lot of folks that don't like the Nude-O-Scope. What a shocker! :eek:


Feel free to take all the pictures you want, with the exception of the x-ray screen. The screening clerks may stomp their little feet up and down, but there is nothing they can do. ;)^

No signs like that here.

Despite the signage for other things like shoes, laptops, liquids, etc, TSA has barkers constantly reminding people. If the barkers are already there, and they're trying to "help", why not actually have them help and saying "this is optional."?

Hell, when I've been "invited" into the machines, no one ever said it was optional. I always opt out, but most people don't know. It seems that in one instance TSA could actually inform people, they choose not to. That says a lot.

Bingo.

I've seen the signs in multiple airports that I fly to and from on a weekly basis. Never, not once, have I ever been able to actually read one of those signs. They've been placed less than a foot from the outside of the WBI, and the TSA employees who work in front of them have absolutely no interest in letting anyone pause long enough to actually read the signs that are there. The font is either 12 or 14 point, which isn't something you're going to be reading from 3 or 4 feet away, or more.

And even though I have the knowledge of what is supposedly on those signs I still can't find the opt out language when I'm actually in an airport.

The solution is to stop and read the sign. IF the TSA clerk says to move on then tell them you have not finished reading the advisement.

After reading then Opt Out!

I will be posting pictures. These signs are not airport specific except for the different technologies. These signs are mandatory to be placed outside of any of the WBI machines. The signage is a requirement by the WBI SOP. If you ever encounter a WBI without the required signage please by all means bring this point up to a screening supervisor.

Like I said I will take pictures today and post them either tonight or tomorrow morning.

^^ Please insist that you are allowed to read and and all information regarding the screening process. As for Opting Out well, thats your own personal decision and you may choose which ever method you prefer. Neither choice will bother me a bit.

And you dont?:rolleyes:

Thanks! :)

I'll be going through ORD myself on Friday morning. If I've got a few extra minutes after taking care of other things (I'll be the guy who's leaving little nudeoscope.com QRCode magnets and stickers around ;)) maybe I'll consider leaving the "sterile" area and poking around a few checkpoints myself. It's either that, or the Eli's Cheesecake cart (they do still have that there, don't they?)...

Agenda 1 (sponsored by TSA): See little children naked, chill free speech at the checkpoints, attack people for taking pictures and carrying applesauce for an eldery person, and now (apparently) squeezing America's genitals and breasts.

Agenda 2 (sponsored by unLogical and others): Educate the public about machines that produce radiation of unknown effect, support dignity and a certain degree of privacy at security checkpoints, improve security by encouraging the use of non-invasive technologies and Common Sense Screening™.

Hmm.... Which do you think most reasonable people would support if it was presented this way?

Cant you do a mix of them. I like the 1 one but I think you should put in privacy and radiation in it.

I would like to thank you for your professional interactions with us. It's a welcome breath of fresh air compared to some of the others I have interacted with.

I have a question, maybe you can't answer it, but I'll ask it anyway:

You stated what goes on at ORD. Thats well and good. But why is it that the signage for these machines is NOT standardized across the country?

There should be 1 sign that is standard for every NoS: It should state:
1. What the machine is
2. What it does
3. That it is optional to go through the machine, and what the alternative is.

And it should be in simple language, with pertinent parts bolded (such as the opt out)

There should also be signs available (not necessary posted, but available upon request) in the following languages:
-Spanish
-Italian
-French
-Russian
-Polish
-Chinese
-Japanese
-Arabic

This should cover the majority of travelers.

Why can't the TSA do that? How hard would it be? Hell, it would probably save money because once there's a standard sign, you wouldn't have to worry about airports doing their own thing.