Breaking News: 7/4/10 Terminal Evacuation at JFK Due to Bomb Threat
 

...SCARE REPORTS SAY


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News report: Terminal dump at JFK
 

I wonder what innocuous object the TSA is convinced will blow up this time?

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QUEENS (WABC) -- Terminal 1 at JFK was evacuated due to an unknown possible threat Sunday evening.

Passengers and workers at the airport confirm that the terminal was evacuated.

Hazmat trucks are also on the scene.

Authorities say that there was a threat of some kind and they are investigating.

Terminal 1 according to the report. Short & to the point for now. Really no info as I type. I can only wonder:rolleyes:

Anyone want to take bets it will be nothing and the TSA authority quoted will say "an abundance of caution"?

JFK Airport terminal in NYC evacuated due to bomb scare that turns out to be false alarm

By The Associated Press (CP) – 12 minutes ago

NEW YORK, N.Y. — A terminal at New York City's JFK Airport has been evacuated due to a bomb scare that turned out to be a false alarm.

A Port Authority spokesman says 250 to 300 passengers were evacuated from Terminal 1 at the airport at about 6 p.m. (2200 GMT) Sunday.

The evacuation happened after an anonymous phone caller said there was a bomb at the airport, and at the same time someone else reported an unattended bag.

Port Authority spokesman John Kelly says police checked the bag and it was not a bomb. He says passengers will be allowed back into the terminal soon.

Guess What - False Alarm
 

JFK Airport terminal evacuated; false alarm:eek:
AP: Authorities report phone threat, but unattended bag wasn't dangerous
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38090153...iner_security/

More abundance of caution...:D:D

Whew!!! It is everything is normal for now. I don't see any suspicious behaviors at JFK today. I knows there is no potential threats from NYPA police does not have a find any evidence. I'm pretty sure they will have to find the passengers who leave behind with unattended bags.

Whoever fixed my thread title, thank you!

I had copied and pasted more, but I guess it was too long. It was bad that it stopped at "bomb" and I didnt catch it before posting. Sorry for the error.

No problems. You should be just fine on the thread. Mods will fixed the title for you.

Guess somebody was taking Pistole's "see something, say something" to heart. Sad, isn't it?

Without knowing more it's got to be due to the phone call not the bag.

I'm beginning to think the term should be: "A bung dance of caution".

Combination.

C'mon folks, this had nothing at all to do with Pistole or the TSA :rolleyes: .
If a bomb threat is phoned in you don't ignore it completely. Yes, it's most likely a hoax but combined with an apparently abandoned bag evacuation seems prudent to me.

Unless as per incidents in the past, the evacuation caused everyone to move back toward the suspect bag, in which case :td: .

An unattended bag is one of the few things I will report. Put it down to living in London 1979-82.

I have to agree.

However, I must muse about total evacuations; it seems to me that a circular clear zone of an established radius away from the suspected threat instead of a total terminal exacuation might be equally effective in some cases. I understand that there would be operational constraints since things move quickly in these situations and exacuation is a simple, one-size-fits-all solution, but I am reminded of the EWR terminal evacuation and can't help but think of what would have happened if a bomb went off in the middle of that croud . . .

What airlines use Terminal 1? I've been there, but either it was Air France or NWA.

My point exactly. There has been more than one evacuation where people were herded back close to the potential device instead of getting everyone well away. If the danger is in the lobby it makes no sense at all recalling everyone from the far reaches of the concourse.

The authorities don't seem to have worked this out, nor the rat maze of people leading to check-in and security which is also a prime target of opportunity. They have got away with it so far, so will continue to handle things the same way. Until...

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agreed 100% as you have to take each "threat" seriously

and i agree again as it makes absolutely no sense to have hundreds of people milling around on the sidewalk right outside the terminal as if it is a real device and it goes off, the mass casualty goal has been accomplished. simple solution is as Ari notes is to have a safe radius and if need be, march the pax down the roadway to a safe distance away from the terminal

Yes, there is correct. AF is operated in terminal 1.

The circular clear zone idea is good except the problem I can think of would be how do you decide what size that zone needs to be if you don't know precisely what kind of item you are dealing with?

that's for the body bean counters to decide using a formula for given amount of explosive(s) and the corresponding blast radius for said explosive(s) and then add a buffer zone of xxx number of feet. but with what i just said, basic disaster preparedness (and in this case, bomb threat preparedness) too much common sense for the tsa to contemplate...:rolleyes:

http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...ards-chart.jpg

While it is for VBIEDs it should give you an idea of the minimum distances. Depending on the location of the unattended bag, size and what is around it (glass) would depend on what the incident commander would evacuate.

Having persons moving from the gates back out to the lobby may not be the best idea but again this is the call for the officials on site. If there was an explosion would it be better to have persons trapped at the gates running onto the AOA?

The matter of what areas to evacuate and then the potential of causing a secondary "killing" zone is brought out every time an evacuation exercise is run. It is a hard call and there will always be Monday morning quarterbacks.

Yes.

Glad you read the whole posting instead of isolating on one sentence.

What's the problem ? You posed a question, I gave my opinion.

If you disagree say why, don't just post a throwaway line. :rolleyes: