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wutdhec Jan 25, 2010 11:10 am

The next security scam?
 
I can see these being sold to screen baggage and passengers.

"Jim McCormick promised his ADE-651 wand could identify anything, including bombs, simply by waving it around with the right RFID card inside. Yeah, totally fake, and now he's in prison. Too bad Iraq already spent $85 million on them. Updated.

Literally, the $40,000 (apiece) devices did absolutely nothing. Nada. Zilch. Experts think the insides contained nothing more than a dumb RFID card. Powered by nothing. Nope, not even a power supply. Just some snake oil, if that. $85 million!"

Read the whole thing and see video here: http://gizmodo.com/5455692/ade+651-m...illed-hundreds

Boggie Dog Jan 25, 2010 11:35 am


Originally Posted by wutdhec (Post 13252542)
I can see these being sold to screen baggage and passengers.

"Jim McCormick promised his ADE-651 wand could identify anything, including bombs, simply by waving it around with the right RFID card inside. Yeah, totally fake, and now he's in prison. Too bad Iraq already spent $85 million on them. Updated.

Literally, the $40,000 (apiece) devices did absolutely nothing. Nada. Zilch. Experts think the insides contained nothing more than a dumb RFID card. Powered by nothing. Nope, not even a power supply. Just some snake oil, if that. $85 million!"

Read the whole thing and see video here: http://gizmodo.com/5455692/ade+651-m...illed-hundreds


How much you want bet that the $85 million didn't come from a US grant or such?

Air Koryo Jan 25, 2010 1:24 pm

The bogus security equipment manufacturers are lining up at TSA HQ.

Did anything ever come of those two-way pagers that allowed TSO's to secretly send eachother pre-set messages? I believe TSA had orders pending for about $10 m of that garbage.

AngryMiller Jan 25, 2010 1:33 pm


Originally Posted by Air Koryo (Post 13253662)
The bogus security equipment manufacturers are lining up at TSA HQ.

Did anything ever come of those two-way pagers that allowed TSO's to secretly send eachother pre-set messages? I believe TSA had orders pending for about $10 m of that garbage.

Heard that they were either replaced by mind reading BDOs or a flock of chickens who get sacrificed on the altar of security at any price for the reading of their entrails.;);)

Pluma Jan 25, 2010 1:44 pm

What you say?
You mean to tell me my magic wand is worthless?

The updates near the end says it all:


Update: We ran the US's doubts on this device in November. This story confirms without a doubt that devices were fake, probably resulted in hundreds of deaths, and that McCormick, thankfully for the human race, has been arrested and is awaiting trial (although he's currently out on bail).

Update 2: The story gets worse. As some have pointed out below, the Iraqi government is standing by these useless devices, even after the BBC report and complaint were filed. [BBC, CrunchGear]
Didn't anyone test these devices? How can the Iraqi's, after being told the devices are worthless, continue to use them?

Unbelievable !!!!!

iluv2fly Jan 25, 2010 2:08 pm


Originally Posted by Pluma (Post 13253804)
What you say?
You mean to tell me my magic wand is worthless?

I'd love to show some of them my magic wand, if you know what I mean... :rolleyes:

IslandBased Jan 25, 2010 2:13 pm


Originally Posted by iluv2fly (Post 13253978)
I'd love to show some of them my magic wand, if you know what I mean... :rolleyes:

Is that similar to the Captain's Log?

msimons Jan 25, 2010 2:55 pm

Saw the vid some days ago; I trust McCormick was giving kickbacks to some Iraqi administrator, although all in all the money probably came from us.

I hope they go beyond fraud and charge him with murder.

Slightly crafty though making it like a old divining rod, which my grandfather used to find water in michigan (dig deep enough and anywhere will do).

A simple double blind test of fixing the rod on a tripod and moving explosives past it would prove it didn't work.

And then RFID "cards" to detect various items....again crafty.

Sorry for the guys that died though.

Sean5294 Jan 25, 2010 4:30 pm

WOW!! I bet the TSA would be all over that hell, they bought the "Puffers" and the "Body Scanners".

IslandBased Jan 25, 2010 4:34 pm

Well, the whole 20 layers of security thing always struck me as like trying to build a helium balloon out of layers of cheese cloth.

N965VJ Jan 25, 2010 4:46 pm


Originally Posted by Air Koryo (Post 13253662)
The bogus security equipment manufacturers are lining up at TSA HQ.

Did anything ever come of those two-way pagers that allowed TSO's to secretly send eachother pre-set messages? I believe TSA had orders pending for about $10 m of that garbage.

Actually, it was $11 million, but who’s counting?

svenskaflicka Jan 25, 2010 4:48 pm


Originally Posted by Sean5294 (Post 13255048)
WOW!! I bet the TSA would be all over that hell, they bought the "Puffers" and the "Body Scanners".

At this point I think Dog The Bounty Hunter could do a better job than the TSA. :D

Sean5294 Jan 25, 2010 4:53 pm

I just watched a news story about it. Turns out they are still being used by those who bought them.

catavencu Feb 10, 2011 5:13 am

ADE 651
 
Here is ADE 651 website.
I have read all the sciencific explination from there but I didnt understand. Can anybody explain? Is it possible? What do you say about that?

Caradoc Feb 10, 2011 6:09 am


Originally Posted by catavencu (Post 15837758)
I have read all the sciencific explination from there but I didnt understand. Can anybody explain? Is it possible? What do you say about that?

No.

The device has as much basis in reality as homeopathy and Scientology.


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