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Trollkiller Jan 2, 2010 4:30 pm

Did TSA ghost-write @FlyingWithFish tweet? Twitter coercion?
 
Must read it all http://www.tnooz.com/2010/01/02/news...tter-coercion/


UPDATE: Less than an hour after posting this story below, a source familiar with aspects of the TSA investigation confirms Tnooz speculation that TSA agents were in Frischling’s home on the evening of Dec. 29 when he tweeted a request to the source of the leaked security directive to contact him.

The agents allegedly wrote the tweet on Frischling’s Blackberry, handed it to him and then asked the blogger to send it, according to the source.

“That way, they could deny that they [the TSA] sent the tweet,” the source says.
Frischling is this true??

Himeno Jan 2, 2010 5:41 pm

Just another reason not to use something pointless like twitter.

Steph3n Jan 2, 2010 5:42 pm

sounds to me like they plan on getting email headers from bluehost(or attempting to do so)....and not caring if they found anything on his laptop or not.

Global_Hi_Flyer Jan 2, 2010 6:02 pm

If this report is true....

then it is inappropriate coercion by the TSA and inappropriate action by Frischling.

Again, IF the report is true (and it may not be).

videomaker Jan 2, 2010 6:18 pm


Originally Posted by Global_Hi_Flyer (Post 13098997)
If this report is true....

then it is inappropriate coercion by the TSA and inappropriate action by Frischling.

Agreed on both counts.

If they weren't tweeting, what were these guys talking about and doing for three hours?

AngryMiller Jan 2, 2010 6:55 pm


Originally Posted by Trollkiller (Post 13098589)
Must read it all http://www.tnooz.com/2010/01/02/news...tter-coercion/

Frischling is this true??

Quite sad if it is true.:(:(

Boggie Dog Jan 2, 2010 7:32 pm


Originally Posted by Trollkiller (Post 13098589)
Must read it all http://www.tnooz.com/2010/01/02/news...tter-coercion/



Frischling is this true??

Lets hope not. Cooperating because of his kids is one thing. Assisting TSA with their investigation is a "whole nudder thang".

Trollkiller Jan 2, 2010 8:10 pm


Originally Posted by Boggie Dog (Post 13099409)
Lets hope not. Cooperating because of his kids is one thing. Assisting TSA with their investigation is a "whole nudder thang".

I too hope it is not true, but either way I want to know the truth.

Boggie Dog Jan 2, 2010 8:58 pm


Originally Posted by Trollkiller (Post 13099586)
I too hope it is not true, but either way I want to know the truth.

Answering the question could ruin a career.

Trollkiller Jan 2, 2010 9:14 pm


Originally Posted by Boggie Dog (Post 13099797)
Answering the question could ruin a career.

Better to ruin a career than to be be bullied and ruin yourself.

Along the same lines of "A coward dies a thousand deaths, a brave man only once."

BillScann Jan 2, 2010 9:20 pm


Originally Posted by Boggie Dog (Post 13099797)
Answering the question could ruin a career.

I should hope Randy will also be asking this question. If he is less than happy with the response, I can't think of why he would want his name to be associated with the flying with fish blog currently hosted on Boardingarea.com

oldjonesy Jan 2, 2010 9:40 pm


Originally Posted by Boggie Dog (Post 13099409)
Lets hope not. Cooperating because of his kids is one thing. Assisting TSA with their investigation is a "whole nudder thang".

He said he cooperated because he had nothing on his computer anyway to identify the source. He further mentioned in a post to me ...

quote"If I knew the identity of my source, which I do not, my actions would have been very different. Had a subpoena been issued for access to the email servers, which are not in my possession (subpoena was for materials in my possession) that would have been met with a legal challenge."unquote

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/13095886-post230.html

I accept that.

If he in fact then actively tried to trap his source by getting him/her to make contact whilst the agents where there then that changes everything. Do you think the agents then took the computer on the chance the source may email him which they could access via webmail?

Just what sort of pressure was this guy under?? It just reinforces to NEVER speak to law enforcement.

BillScann Jan 2, 2010 9:43 pm


Originally Posted by Trollkiller (Post 13099855)
Better to ruin a career than to be be bullied and ruin yourself.

+1

He's being pretty badly savaged all over the blogosphere for the same reasons I brought up yesterday. If this latest Twitter business is true, it moves the actions from mere pathetic cowardice to outright craven collaboration. This is not good.

OverThereTooMuch Jan 3, 2010 1:18 am


Originally Posted by BillScann (Post 13100089)
If this latest Twitter business is true, it moves the actions from mere pathetic cowardice to outright craven collaboration. This is not good.

Assuming this is true (consider the source :rolleyes:), many people in this forum would've done exactly the same if put in this sort of situation.

bdschobel Jan 3, 2010 4:26 am


Originally Posted by OverThereTooMuch (Post 13100801)
...many people in this forum would've done exactly the same if put in this sort of situation.

That's kind of a meaningless statement, isn't it? "Many people" are serial killers, too. How much is "many," anyway?

I'll make a statement that is more meaningful: I would not have cooperated with these "special" agents in any way, shape or form -- children or not. I would have exercised my Fifth Amendment right to remain silent, demanded a lawyer, and if they chose to arrest me (for what?), I would have demanded appropriate care for my children. That's all I have to say. I am not criticizing Steve, who had to decide for himself what to do in a very tough situation; I'm just saying that some of us would have fought a little harder.

Bruce


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