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Originally Posted by Louie_LI
(Post 12480478)
Given that my name barely fits on the boarding pass before adding a middle name, I fail to see how a good many people's boarding passes will match exactly their ID.
Despite providing all of that info to delta, my boarding pass still prints LASTNAME/FIRST. I don't know if it will become a new field on boarding passes at some point in the future, as it does state it must match the ID you will be traveling on. One thought - I have seen the TSA deploy boarding pass scanners to authenticate boarding passes at a few airports. Perhaps the TSA, at the TDC position, will be using this to match the SecureFlight fields against your ID at some point in the future? The TSA scanning of paper boarding passes for validity was a mess and really caused the queues to back up when I have been subjected to it - hopefully they won't waste more money and manpower to scan each and every boarding pass. |
Originally Posted by daw617
(Post 12465860)
I wonder what happens if you just don't fill out this web page?
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Originally Posted by SDF_Traveler
(Post 12481701)
The information requested for Secure Flight does not appear on your boarding pass.
It is so simple and practical that it does not even require the listed person to get fake ID, or fake a boarding pass! |
Originally Posted by BubbaLoop
(Post 12482078)
That is a point (out of many others) that makes the whole thing pointless. ...
It is so simple and practical that it does not even require the listed person to get fake ID, or fake a boarding pass! |
Originally Posted by SDF_Traveler
(Post 12481701)
The information requested for Secure Flight does not appear on your boarding pass.
Despite providing all of that info to delta, my boarding pass still prints LASTNAME/FIRST. I don't know if it will become a new field on boarding passes at some point in the future, as it does state it must match the ID you will be traveling on. Which should have been MIDDLE1 MIDDLE2. So what's the use of asking for it exactly as it is in the passport if they can't use it? |
Originally Posted by SDF_Traveler
(Post 12481701)
The information requested for Secure Flight does not appear on your boarding pass.
Despite providing all of that info to delta, my boarding pass still prints LASTNAME/FIRST. I don't know if it will become a new field on boarding passes at some point in the future, as it does state it must match the ID you will be traveling on. - The data your provide for SecureFlight is used BEHIND THE SCENES where the airline's computer system transmits to the the TSA before you even check-in. The TSA matches this information against their no-fly lists and sends either an "OK to fly", or "Not OK to Fly" message back to the airline. - If the airline receives an "OK to fly" message from the TSA, then you will be able to receive your boarding pass (even if the name on the boarding pass does not show your middle name etc.). - If the airline receives a "Not OK to Fly" message from the TSA, then you won't be receiving your boarding pass to begin with!! (As the airline would not be able to issue you a boarding pass). If this happens to you, then you will have to apply for a "redress number" that you can use in the future when you fly. |
Originally Posted by bocastephen
(Post 12481928)
I can't speak for Delta, but I've skipped this process every time while booking tickets on Continental and so far nothing has happened with the airline or at the checkpoint.
However, once they do, then without the SecureFlight data, you won't be able to check-in either online or at the airport until you provide the information to a ticket agent. |
Originally Posted by daniellam
(Post 12488612)
I don't know how many time I have said this in other threads relating to this topic, but this is how it happens:
- The data your provide for SecureFlight is used BEHIND THE SCENES where the airline's computer system transmits to the the TSA before you even check-in. The TSA matches this information against their no-fly lists and sends either an "OK to fly", or "Not OK to Fly" message back to the airline. - If the airline receives an "OK to fly" message from the TSA, then you will be able to receive your boarding pass (even if the name on the boarding pass does not show your middle name etc.). - If the airline receives a "Not OK to Fly" message from the TSA, then you won't be receiving your boarding pass to begin with!! (As the airline would not be able to issue you a boarding pass). If this happens to you, then you will have to apply for a "redress number" that you can use in the future when you fly. Did I just travel back to the old Soviet Union where I needed permission to travel? I thought this was the US? :td: |
Originally Posted by SDF_Traveler
(Post 12481701)
...One thought - I have seen the TSA deploy boarding pass scanners to authenticate boarding passes at a few airports. Perhaps the TSA, at the TDC position, will be using this to match the SecureFlight fields against your ID at some point in the future?
.... SecureFlight fields are only used BEFORE YOU CHECK-IN for matching your name against the no-fly lists. It becomes irrelevant after you check-in as you wouldn't have received a boarding pass in the first place had you either not provided the required SecureFlight information, or if your name matches the no-fly list. |
Originally Posted by Superguy
(Post 12488732)
Originally Posted by daniellam
I don't know how many time I have said this in other threads relating to this topic, but this is how it happens: - The data your provide for SecureFlight is used BEHIND THE SCENES where the airline's computer system transmits to the the TSA before you even check-in. The TSA matches this information against their no-fly lists and sends either an "OK to fly", or "Not OK to Fly" message back to the airline. - If the airline receives an "OK to fly" message from the TSA, then you will be able to receive your boarding pass (even if the name on the boarding pass does not show your middle name etc.). - If the airline receives a "Not OK to Fly" message from the TSA, then you won't be receiving your boarding pass to begin with!! (As the airline would not be able to issue you a boarding pass). If this happens to you, then you will have to apply for a "redress number" that you can use in the future when you fly. Did I just travel back to the old Soviet Union where I needed permission to travel? I thought this was the US? :td: Finally somebody understands the real idea behind SecureFlight. |
Originally Posted by daniellam
(Post 12488664)
This is because CO probably does not have to transmit the SecureFlight data collected to the TSA yet.
However, once they do, then without the SecureFlight data, you won't be able to check-in either online or at the airport until you provide the information to a ticket agent. |
Originally Posted by daniellam
(Post 12488765)
They are only scanning the boarding passes to make sure that they are not fake (eg. an online check-in boarding pass may be edited before printing).
SecureFlight fields are only used BEFORE YOU CHECK-IN for matching your name against the no-fly lists. It becomes irrelevant after you check-in as you wouldn't have received a boarding pass in the first place had you either not provided the required SecureFlight information, or if your name matches the no-fly list. There is nothing to stop someone from printing their BP at home, changing the content, printing a new copy and just slicing off the bar code. |
Originally Posted by bocastephen
(Post 12489024)
No worries - as previously mentioned by me, I will supplying fake information every time I register - a birth date off here, a year off there, oops wrong gender.
For example: When checking in for your flight, the check-in agent may match your ID against the SSR DOCS field in their computer. If it dosen't match, then they'll have to re-key all the information and wait for a new "OK to fly" or "Not OK to fly" message. If you are "OK to fly", then they would issue you a boarding pass. Even if you check-in online, you may be hasseled at the airport to have your ID verified (and that's when they'll pull up your SecureFlight data in their system). |
Originally Posted by daniellam
(Post 12489287)
I would advise against doing this as it may cause delays with the check-in process.
For example: When checking in for your flight, the check-in agent may match your ID against the SSR DOCS field in their computer. If it dosen't match, then they'll have to re-key all the information and wait for a new "OK to fly" or "Not OK to fly" message. If you are "OK to fly", then they would issue you a boarding pass. Even if you check-in online, you may be hasseled at the airport to have your ID verified (and that's when they'll pull up your SecureFlight data in their system). No one is going to pull up SF data on their 'system' - who are you suggesting will? The TSA? Nonsense. The airline? When? I've checked in online already, they don't look at me again unless I'm on an Int'l flight, and then just give my passport a cursory glance to make sure it reasonably matches what's on the BP. You're getting wrapped up in a bunch of speculation. SF doesn't even affect you - you're in Canada. |
Iremember after WWII the books that came out about how could a country like Germany could become Nazi. How could the people let it happen?
Well here we are 60+ years later. Are we any different? |
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