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skofarrell Oct 5, 2004 5:59 am


Originally Posted by Leftover Meatloaf
As I mentioned earlier, I read FT for well over a year before registering to post and discovered OMNI during that period. You'll notice by my low post count since registering that I'm not really that active even now that I've registered. But thanks for the personal att..... errrrrrrrrr... concern.

Sorry, I missed that. I apologize. How are things in MCO anyway?

wharvey Oct 5, 2004 6:13 am

I would like to gently warn everyone that you need to stay on topic.

This is NOT a thread to discuss moderator actions... either positively or negatively.

I can assure you that personal attacks will not be tolerated.

If you have a problem with a post, please click on the Report Post Icon and let me know rather than posting in the thread... no need to escalate problems.

I really do not want to close the thread... but it is starting to get off topic... and we all know how that starts to snowball in this forum.

Thanks for listening (or is that reading?).

William

Gaucho100K Oct 5, 2004 6:34 am

A sad event in the history of FT. Please, lets all not forget that the slaying of OMNI started with the elimination of post counts on that board.....

MatthewClement Oct 5, 2004 6:37 am


Originally Posted by Leftover Meatloaf
Damn. Bush just made a really good, supportable point that made Kerry look bad. I better shut this thing down before it happens again. Can't let the story get confused with facts.

You just don't get it, do you.

Go away and play somewhere else.

Mary2e Oct 5, 2004 7:09 am


Originally Posted by ScottC
Just how many handles are you going to try and use here on FT?This is what, the third already?
:rolleyes:

If this is true, it is the reason so many people are agreeing that politics and religion have no place on FT.

If this is the poster that is being alluded to, well, he's one of the biggest political trolls on Omni and was banned a few times. He keeps on creating new handles. He's still trying in this thread by bringing up politics.

FT and Omni would be a much better place without politics and religion. These trolls would just go away.

To many people that didn't visit Omni often it seems like there wasn't really anything wrong with the active posts. What they don't know is that there were partisan trolls posting continuously throughout the day. This was disruptive and caused hard feelings.

It seems that most people favor FT without politics and religion. Now, how do we get Randy to listen to us and give us back the valuable resource Omni was?

Mary

Arcolaio99 Oct 5, 2004 7:13 am


Originally Posted by Kneel
Well, if you use New Posts, the OMNI items were 15% to 25% of the items. I never visited it once and am GLAD to see it gone along with all those all those posts that have nothing to do with FlyerTalk. Likewise I hope that there are no plans for its return.

You are glad to see something gone that you never visited? Interesting, how do you explain that? I can give you examples of DO's that have sprung from Omni. One is the Football DO in PHX and possibly a basbeall DO in NY if we can get it together. What a waste Omni is. :rolleyes:

Bonehead Oct 5, 2004 7:16 am

I am still grappling with this closure. I was looking forward to more spirited discussion with all the folks on the board because--agree or disagree--I came to believe (in my short time here) that this is a pretty smart and articulate bunch, and I certainly have learned alot. I got annoyed at times with certain posters in the "there you go again" kind of way, burt after reflection I realized that people have their own ways of posing ideas and thoughts that they truly believe in.

What a great way to gain insight into the way that people I would never normally hang with think about the world! And talk about a great place to play devil's advocate.

I for the life of me don't understand why anyone would go whining to the moderators...leave them alone! Maybe I just never saw the really bad stuff...

Plato90s Oct 5, 2004 7:42 am


Originally Posted by pinniped
I will miss OMNI.

...

I'll also miss the games, sports talk, and other whimsical threads. I won't miss the politics/religion too much because, frankly, people had long stopped exchanging fresh ideas and were simply regurgitating the same things over and over again. But it was easy enough to stay out of those threads if I didn't want to participate. I don't see why they should have an impact on OMNI's future. Overall, the flame wars in OMNI were mild in comparison to most boards.

And just think. OMNI was closed shortly before pinniped could have boasted of a big win by his KC Chiefs.

Bring back OMNI!! I need my football-fix and my Yankee trash-talk to go along with miles and travel.

dsimon Oct 5, 2004 7:52 am


Originally Posted by Arcolaio99
I can give you examples of DO's that have sprung from Omni. One is the Football DO in PHX and possibly a basbeall DO in NY if we can get it together.

and


Originally Posted by Plato90s
Bring back OMNI!! I need my football-fix and my Yankee trash-talk to go along with miles and travel.

Absolutely. I had been looking forward to the next (hopefully) three weeks of back and forth with Yankee and Red Sox fans.

Those threads were always interesting, and above all. civil. Polite and respectful even, when you consider two groups of fans that don't always get along.

AA_SPG_Fan Oct 5, 2004 8:08 am

I will also voice that I am disappointed to see the end of OMNI -- but, it must have been hard work for the moderators and those subjected to some hateful posts (including me). I didnt post so much -- and only came into some of the more political ones rarely when I felt a strong affinity towards (or just had too much idle time on that day) ;) But, overall -- I was always impressed with (the most part) intelligence and professionalism and experiences of the users which participated. Healthy debate is a wonderful thing and is engaging and enriching when the personal attacks don't come out.

Maybe create a new forum (new name -- cant use OMNI) that keeps religion and politics off limits, may require a moderator "release" before it gets posted for the first time and then users are only limited to one (or two in case of rebuttal) posts?

Occupationalhazard Oct 5, 2004 8:10 am


Originally Posted by birdstrike
Personally, I'm sorry to see OMNI shuttered. I was going to post an image of a beached whale we saw in Monterey this weekend. :D

LOOK! FOR THE LAST TIME: I WASN'T BEACHED! I JUST WANTED TO GET A TAN! EVERY TIME I LAY OUT, THOSE GREENPEACE MFERS SHOW UP AND TRY TO ROLL ME BACK IN THE WATER!!!

Them: "You're FREE! You're FREE!"

Me: "I JUST WANTED A TAN! GET YOUR SKEEVY HANDS OFF ME!"

:p

O/H

Occupationalhazard Oct 5, 2004 8:14 am


Originally Posted by jfe
Needless to say, we have complains about everything, we act on the complaints, we are unfair, we don't do anything, we are unfair.

I have some sympathy for the mods in this regard, in that I moderate an "OMNI" type forum of a different IBB. You're damned if you do, damned if you don't. I've had people accusing me in advance of deleting their posts....before I ever nuked a single post, and this one dewd claims I deleted either 1 or 2 of his posts (the number varies with how many bong hits he's had) more than 2 years ago, and he's still enraged about it. The board owner can, of course, also nuke threads, but it never seems to occur to this dewd that that's what happened (which, btw, it was).

O/H

RobotDoctor Oct 5, 2004 8:16 am


Originally Posted by Kneel
Well, if you use New Posts, the OMNI items were 15% to 25% of the items. I never visited it once and am GLAD to see it gone along with all those all those posts that have nothing to do with FlyerTalk. Likewise I hope that there are no plans for its return.

I appreciate your opinion but am puzzled with it. If you have never been in Omni, how can you say it was not valuable? I see a great many people posting there that are active in travel related forums. Are you implying that we are not worthy members of the FlyerTalk community? The members that post in Omni found a great diversion to out everyday involvement with travel and profession with the same group of people that travel. There is a common bond with most Omni-ites and it is that we travel but can discuss topics not related to travel.

However, if Randy feels that removing Omni is in the best interest of FlyerTalk then I will support this. After all, I came to FlyerTalk to learn and discuss frequent travel. I am in hopes that the conclusion that Omni benefited more members and the number of members causing trouble were very few in considered in the future of Omni.

Best regards,

RD

OttoGraham Oct 5, 2004 8:33 am


Originally Posted by RobotDoctor
I am in hopes that the conclusion that Omni benefited more members and the number of members causing trouble were very few in considered in the future of Omni.

I have to disagree with you here, Doctor. Randy said it was because of 100 posters. A couple people who have posted here in this thread have repeatedly suggested it was because of conservatives. This is nothing more than a continuation of the OMNI war in ORP.


Originally Posted by RobotDoctor
However, if Randy feels that removing Omni is in the best interest of FlyerTalk then I will support this. After all, I came to FlyerTalk to learn and discuss frequent travel.

What? Travel? What's that? Wouldn't you rather read 143 threads about homosexual "marriage," 297 threads about Bush being a Nazi, 97 threads about Cheney and Halliburton stealing us blind, 159 threads about Swift Boats, 113 threads about Monsieur Kerry, 98 threads about "Xtian Fundies," 182 threads about the sex lives of outed gay politicians, et cetera?

I say, as somebody who posted in OMNI for two years, that the section had NOTHING to do with miles, points, or travel. It was a diversion that was interesting, but alas, fungible. OMNI was the source of much of the nastiness and personal attacks which populate this thread and FT in general.

90% of the complaints on this entire board emanated from OMNI, including most of the complaints about moderation, and as we can see from the personal attacks by two of the former OMNI moderators on this thread, people may well have been justified.

Randy said, enough is enough, and that's fine with me. I can certainly discuss Monsieur Kerry in many other places on the internet. I can't however, discuss miles, points, or travel in any better place.

PG Oct 5, 2004 8:47 am

Isn't it ironic that some who now claim that the problem was the number of threads on Kerry, Bush etc. were the ones who were happily posting them :rolleyes:


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