Please stop the threads mocking a 20s meeting
 

Look it was an idea that evolved out of the continental thread about so many young flyertalker. There are many general meetings open to everyone what wrong with there being a one time young flyertalker meeting for those in their 20s.

I have been accused of everything from being near racist cause I choose to include an age. I didn't mean to offend people but there are many general get-togethers and I'll be happy to attend one. But maybe for one nite people would prefer a 20s get together. It is open to everyone just of a certain age or near that age. If people of that agree, they'll show up, and please let it be.. If not they can always go to a general get together. You can not dispute "in general" people in their 20s value things different than that of people in their 30s and their 40s and for one nite what's the harm?..



[This message has been edited by welookgood.com (edited 05-02-2003).]

Yes I can dispute it that you value different things than those not in your "demographic". Most of those on this board who have passed the 30 mark can attest to the fact age is irrelevant, attitude and personality are what matters.

"Attitude and personality" are not what matters if age is the stated criteria.

welookgood.com...don't let 'em get to you. It's your party and I don't see you doing anything at all wrong or inappropriate.

I'm just jealous that my age has forced me out of the opportunity to join you. But I understand completely why you're planning it this way and more power to you!!

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welookgood,

You just opened up another can of worms. You left out folks 'wholookgood' that are 50. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif

By the way, PremEx is right. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

I have just posted a lengthy response supporting your idea in your original thread:

See FlyerTalk under 30 get together?
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum.../003302-2.html

Basically, some people are afraid of death, hence afraid of growing old. Eventually the feelings of "hurt and exclusion" will die down, or perhaps the middle-agers and old-timers will actually follow through on their own competing plans.

But for reasons such as those advocated by people like PremEx and me, go for it!.

I have one quibble with the conclusion of your topic-opening post in this thread about youthful "values." From my post in the other thread:

Enjoy!


[Edited because, as a 30+ individual, I am computer and UBB challenged!]

[This message has been edited by SPN Lifer (edited 05-02-2003).]

You're asking this group to stop mocking?? ROTFLMAO

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Lol. This thread is troll bait if i have EVER seen it.

However, and not to disagree TOO loudly with Premex, if you want to have a private party, you might do well to not announce it on the Internet http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif. I just invited my local chapter of the Hell's Angels http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif.

Jeez. Someone needs to getasenseofhumor.com

-alan in sitges

I think weneedtogetamoderatortocleanupthisoforum.com.

One of the moderators has joined the fun!

Will she be moderated by some OTHER moderator??? http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif


Kathy

*sigh*

I LOVE Flyertalk.

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D*MN that espresso!

Let that be a lesson to you mockers!

Also, please do not mock the threads mocking this thread. God will roast your stomachs in Hell at the hands of those who do not mock.

"Young man. Your gargantuan cone is making a mockery of my self serve
policy." - Apu Nahasapeemapetilon, The Simpsons

Spiff, please stop mocking Apu.

-alan in sitges

Mock on, mock on, Voltaire, Rousseau:
Mock on, mock on: 'tis all in vain!
You throw the sand against the wind,
And the wind blows it back again.
-- William Blake

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[This message has been edited by welookgood.com (edited 05-03-2003).]

All I hope is that when my kids are 20 they don't go trying to get fashion tips on your website http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif

ScottC, please stop mocking the fashion tips.

-alan in sitges

welookgood,

You're taking this the wrong way. For whatever reason, since you haven't noticed yet; we LIKE you. That's why we're all kidding you about your post.

Have your DO. It's ok with us. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

Dan

I would be surprised if I am. I am also a member of the FT Community at-large however and the last time I checked, I was still entitled to have opinions.

As far as moderating goes, I would say lets not bash the poster, but as far as bashing the idea, I'm all for people being entitled to an opinion.

Dan: Stopy mocking hehatemelookgood.com by pretending to like him!

alanw, please stop mocking the mocking.

The boorishness and immaturity expressed by certain of the elderly folks on the Do threads tells exactly why we need an under-30 gathering. Many of us younger FTers are sick and tired of the disrespect and mistreatment at the hands of others, be they airline personnel, or certain older FTers without lives of their own.

Welookgood.com, if you or someone else is still up to plan a DO for the under-30, I would be happy to assist in any way I can. Granted, I can't take the lead on organizing myself due to other commitments, but it now more clear to me than ever that the younger FTers HAVE to meet...

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Oh, that's rich...

-alan in sitges

"But they did not care. They're totally indifferent. All they do is mock me, just like they did the fat fellow. All the time, mocking, mocking, mocking, mocking, all the time. It is Babu's turn to mock."
- Babu, in "The Finale", Seinfeld.

"C'mon, there will be people to mock."
- Jerry to Elaine, trying to convince her to go to a wedding, in "The Stakeout", Seinfeld.

"Oh cruel fate, why do you mock me?"
- Homer Simpson
"Why do you mock me, Oh Lord?"
- Homer Simpson

It seems this thread has run amock!!!!!!! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif

Interesting comments, as the current situation on FlyerTalk Community is quickly starting to resemble that of a past situation in The Coupon Connection.

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum95/HTML/002687.html

Is this FlyerTalk Community or OMNI?

The various threads are not about a get-together, rather about mocking a proposed get-together.

Someone gave me a heads-up that this thread was possibly getting out of hand. Hmm ...

I'm not going to lock down this thread, but it is bordering on the uncivil. Can we take it down a coupla notches? Thanks.

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essxjay
FT Community moderator

[This message has been edited by essxjay (edited 05-03-2003).]

Since everyone else has seemed to have been afflicted with open mouth stick foot in disease I might as well add my two cents.
This is not the first time that someone has posted that they wanted to have a "restricted attendance event" and I imagine it will not be the last.
Each of the previous events were also met with the debate and mockery that is taking place around this event.
1) I would guess that if you posted an event here on FT Community and I being a member of the FT Community felt that I wanted to go then I would go and screw the consequences. seems to me this happened at one of the Catman events. I can not remember the number but it was the one I went to and that is what happened.
2)If you posted an event that was restricted as to the number who could attend but I was able to make my own reservations and attend at the same time along with a great number of other members then screw the consequences. seems to me that is what happened in Chicago
3)If you want to post an event that was restricted to sexual orientation and I wanted to attend and be part of the event (crashing the party so to say) then screw the consequences. seems to recollect that one the catylst for the beginning of the glbt travelers forum

All the above took place here and were discussed and the same naysayers said get a life to the same yeasayers.
Most everyone I have met at FT events and the number is easily at this point in the hundreds would not be so DUMB to go to an event where they were not going to have a good time. Those same persons I have met would not be so DUMB to not go to an event where they were going to have a good time.

If you post an activity that I want to attend than I will notify you I am attending. (see #1 above) If you post an activity that I do not want to attend I will not make any notification. (normal)
If you post an activity that I want to attend and you restrict the number and I find that I can make my own reservations I just may do that (see #2 above)
Who knows maybe out of our lively debate maybe another forum will be created like the welookgoodandtravel.andhaveproblemswhiledoingso.an dneedtodiscussthiswithotherswhohavethesameproblem. forum (see #3 above)

I wish those planning the Flyertalk under 30 event good luck. Sorry that you have to go through all of this drama.

I've been there. If you would permit me...

Magic TO clarify the event you speak of in your post:

Seems to me that's happened at one of the Catman events. I can not remember the number but it was the one I went to and that is what happened.

It was The Catman do Trois/3 (March 23-25, 2001

As I posted on my thread (perhaps not clearly enough for some http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

I'm looking forward to seeing all my friends again and meeting new ones in NYC this March!

http://www.flyertalk.com/pasttalk/ft...ML/000639.html

And on my website: http://members.aol.com/millionmileflyer/catmando3.html

I said I was inviting my FRIENDS to come to this weekend.

(Can hear some people syaing now "oh GOD, Catman's bringing up ancient history! Give it up" This is for the benefit of anyone who's planning a do now or in the future)

As it was stated several times here and other threads... it's your party. You set the rules. And if you can't attend because of those rules you don't CRASH the party (I never would.) http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

Now when I planned my Catman do Trois and said I was looking forward to seeing my FRIENDS ... Someone who clearly was no FRIEND of mine decided to come. No notification via e-mail as I asked, just decided to show up - crash the party. Hense started a 12 page thread, lots of e-mails and a lot of angenia and headaches on what my event was about and if what I was doing was fair.

It got so bad I was thisclose to just canceling myself out or canceling the entire event. I left the boards prior to the event because it got so bad for me -- and driving a few people who were very close to me crazy over all of this. A few people who wanted to come who are my FRIENDS decided to cancel out.

But eventually things got resolved. That whole experience made me very gunshy on doing a Catman do Quadre. (Kathy, we already went on the debate on my use of grammar http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/frown.gif )

But if I do, I will again emphasize "My Flyertalk FRIENDS "

Thank you for playing. We now go back to our regular scheduled debating http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

I would have interpreted this as excluding non-friends ("enemies"), but inviting those who hoped to make your friendship ("new ones") at the event.

But then again, someone who may have rubbed you the wrong way could have been blissfully unaware of the offense given.

Precision in language is always advantageous.

Unless you're running for election... http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif

There I go generalizing again!

Deliberate polite ambiguity can also have advantages in social settings.

I just want to set the record straight.

In spite of my joining in the mockery, I really see absolutely nothing wrong with "Special Interest Group" FlyerTalk Do's. Including those targeted at certain age groups, FF programs, cliques, etc., etc., etc.

I do think that if a party organizer is bound and determined to exclude certain individuals or certain "demographics" (such as geriatric cases over 30), they should either:

1) Gather up an e-mail list and do the specific invitations by e-mail only, rather than public posting. (I believe such events already occur.) Getting a list of FlyerTalk handles/e-mail addresses and ideas for venues (for under-30 events, for example) by public posting is probably the first step, though.

OR

2) Do as numerous people on these threads have suggested, and propose an event/location that is likely to attract the "right" crowd by self-selection. (This has been done also; witness the events with a drinking focus, for example.) Of course, there is a higher risk with publicly posted events that someone will "crash" the party. The organizer has to decide for him/herself if that risk is acceptable.

This is IMHO.

Anyway, all the hubbub that the original post started has been both entertaining and enlightening. I hope the original poster isn't TOO bent out of shape by all this!!! You gotta be able to roll with the punches sometimes. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif

And welookgood.com, weluvya.com! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif


Kathy

Everybody had it's fun now.

Could we all please come back to community all-day-life threads? Am I the only one that is bored by all those posts of late?

Please!


ralfkrippner
Community Co-Moderator

Funny and interesting threads -- just wanted to throw in my $.02 -- as someone who went to a so called 'public' get-together and it obviously wasn't (or at least I was persona-non-grata for the organizer) I would ask that it be made clear if a get-together has such restrictions or not. Your (and the various mocking threads) seem clear enough to me!

That said, under 30 meeting sounds good to me, except I'm one of the aforementioned under 30 who act like he's 60 -- I'd rather be at home and/or driving a Lincoln Town Car than anything typical of the rest of you http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

Good luck!

I think we have to make a key distinction here.

If someone feels that "people in their 20s value things different than that of people in their 30s and their 40s" - probably true - and wants to arrange an event that reflects whatever he/she thinks people in that demographic value, great. Tell me what the program and venue are. I can decide if I want to go or not. Ditto for any other demographic.

If someone posts info about a social event on FT and then tells me I'm not welcome because of my age, skin color, religion, sexual orientation, physical disability or any such garbage, not great.

The organizers of a gay-oriented FT event did it right. They announced that it would take place at venues that serve a primarily gay clietele but was open to all FTers. Anyone, regardless of sexual orientation, could then decide if he/she wanted to go or not, knowing what to expect.

I would urge the organizers of the 20-29 event and all others to follow this example. Attract your target audience by the positive means of appealing to their interests, not the negative one of excluding others. (Who knows - you may meet and fall in love with a 32-year-old geezer who shows up!)

I notice you left out sex.. So I assume it's ok for females to meet by themselves or men... But not ok for a general age group to meet..

Maybe a few of you saw old school one too many time

"Making friends fast, John."

-Russel Zitsky, Stripes

Lee Harvey! YOU are a MAD MAN! When you stole that cow .. and your friend tried to make it with the cow. I want to party with you cowboy! The two of us together, forget it!
-John Winger, Stripes.