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Doppy Feb 22, 2002 8:34 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by WilliamTheTraveler:
Most definetly do away with the preferred parking and any other perks for members of congress at DCA (express lines for congress people or otherwise). Who do those people think they are? They are supposed to be representing the people. Get in line, then!</font>
The preferred parking is probably a security issue. Since congresspeople are bigger targets than the typical American, it makes sense to put all of their cars into one secure location that can be watched over and that has restricted access. If everyone has access to all of the lots, it's going to cost a LOT more more money to keep an eye on each car.

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iadisgreat Feb 22, 2002 9:42 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Doppy:
The preferred parking is probably a security issue. Since congresspeople are bigger targets than the typical American, it makes sense to put all of their cars into one secure location that can be watched over and that has restricted access. If everyone has access to all of the lots, it's going to cost a LOT more more money to keep an eye on each car.

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I'm just pointing out, on a topic that is somewhat unrelated, that before Pearl Harbor they put all the planes together for "safety" and look what happened...

Oh, and my opinion on this, even though I'm not a frequent flyer, (but I enjoy your all's posts, anyway), is that there should be short lines for everyone. A lot of people on this site are top tier members, who fly often on award tickets, why should they get to go through faster, aren't they basically flying for free anyway? The fast-track lines, just aren't fair. So you flew with them for 25,000 miles, most likely on the lowest fares you could find, from what I see in the Miliage Run forum, why do you need to be treated like a king/queen? Those machines for FF are unused a much higher time than the others, so us "regular" people should go to them, so they are in constant use all the time releaving (sp?) pressure on the other machines.

-Nick

15, but I still have some idea of what I'm talking about; sorta... http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

Edited due to grammatical errors, and added "stuff" I wanted to say!

Had to add a word too. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif

[This message has been edited by iadisgreat (edited 02-22-2002).]

2 Million Miler Feb 24, 2002 12:17 pm

Well, I was going to start this reply with all the STUPID comments made, but the list got to be so long, it would have been almost two pages by itself. “It’s not fair”…”It’s discrimination”…and on and on ad nausea.

Look, here’s the bottom line. Elite lines are NOT the answer in the LONG TERM. But, in the interim, (remember the government is now running things, so any plan that is actually going to work in reducing the long security lines, is going to take FOREVER), ELITES LINES ARE THE SHORT TERM ANSWER!!!!

If you disincentive the frequent flyer to the point that he/she figures out that the time wasted just to get onto an airplane is greater than alternative means of getting there, they are either going to start utilizing those alternative methods, or skipping the event altogether. When this happens, the only people left in those lines will be the people that only travel infrequently. All short and commuter flights will go away. I guess that’s one way to solve the problem, now isn’t it.

I fly an average of 10 flights a week. At $2.50 a pop, that’s $25.00/week, or $1250.00/year. Yes, I think that someone paying 1250 a year vs. $10-$20 a year SHOULD be able to go through the lines quicker, because yes, he HAS paid for the privilege.

Until a better method of screening is devised, thereby shortening the time it takes to happen, the use of Elite Lines for the frequent flyer MUST HAPPEN, or the consequences will be much greater than the alternatives.


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Blue Skies to you all!

mikey1003 Feb 24, 2002 2:04 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Randy Petersen:
I hear you but you will probably be dissapointed to learn that I don't favor special lines for elite flyers. I fly with the best of them and have more miles than i care to count sometime, but I'm also a taxpayer and now that the Feds have taken over the responsibility, don't think it right for taxpayer dollars to support special lines. Why? Honestly, it has more to do with my pragmatic understanding of the infrastructure that airports are working with today. I really haven't found the lines to be of any concern to me now that things aren't as screwed up as they initially were, and I just went in and out of Salt Lake City which arguably has the most attention for this right now because of the Olympics. Airports are public facilities to my understanding and public places really can't cater to private interests. Airlines can and do what they want for their best customers, but airports have all customers in mind when they try and offer services.

So, I'll take the heat on this one but at least I'm not changing my stripes. I was quoted over 2 months ago as predicting that the government would take this action and was fine with it. I can't and won't change my mind now that it is here. Sorry. Now, you can start tossing the tomatoes......
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Thanks for your help...we did it ourselves

mikey1003 Feb 24, 2002 2:08 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by hfly:
The average US citizen flies less than 3 times per year on average. This average citizen also normally shows up at the airport 2-3 hours before the flight ANYWAY. Net loss assuming an hours wait = 3 hrs

FF who flies 100 flights a year??? 100 HOURS. THAT IS OVER FOUR DAYS OF YOUR LIFE!!!!!!!! LOST TO IDIOCY!!!!!!!

And yes, If one pays more money one should get better service including less wait time at security. This is not socialism. The capitalist world is not equal, you pay the money, you get the service. THIS IS the principal that exists in Europe with Fast Track lines.
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Or 2 hours or more depending on day of the week and airport.

doc Feb 25, 2002 7:42 am

As I'd once said earlier I agree with Randys' view on this. As nice as it is to be on a special elite, or just a faster line, don't we still actually need to get everyone through airports expeditiously in order for the carriers to profit and for "matters" to return to some semblance of "normal?" I'd think so! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

sdix Feb 25, 2002 12:54 pm

I don't care about everyone getting thru the airport quickly. I care about me getting thru the airport in a timely manner. Yeah, 1 vacation flight a year who cares? But several trips a week sure adds up in lost productivity.


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