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PG Dec 25, 2001 11:34 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Andrew Webber:
In fact you need a US (not Canadian) address for the subscriptions, but as far as I know, you in Ireland can buy an American friend a gift subscription to The Economist for U$125 and collect the 14062.5 FF miles. (I haven't tested it with a non-Canadian address, but I've purchased gift subscriptions for my American friends).

andrew</font>
I don't think that someone in Ireland can participate in the Radisson Gold Rewards program.

According to the Radisson Goldpoints FAQ:

Due to legal constraints, the Radisson Gold Rewards Program is only available to residents in the U.S., Canada, Mexico and the Caribbean. Residents outside of the U.S., Canada, Mexico and the Caribbean can receive 500 airline miles per stay with one of twenty-three participating airlines simply by showing their frequent flyer card at check-in.


PG Dec 25, 2001 11:49 pm

I doubt whether you will find much support in FlyerTalk for the airlines/hotels to terminate their frequent flier/guest programs in accordance with the terms of conditions and legal laws.

cactuspete Dec 26, 2001 2:56 pm

FWIW, the ValueMags offer thru GoldPoints is now back to 150 GPs/$. It appears that the promotion was pulled early.

Randy Petersen Dec 26, 2001 3:42 pm

Let's make sure you understand that I don't endorse MileSpy in a way a few posters on this thread seem to think. I found it to be interesting and something for the masses and we reported on it in MilesLink - a week after we reported the same story for free use of the information. Because we tell you about what's going on out there does not mean we "endorse it." I don't think than Dan Rather feels he "endorses" the war in Afganistan when he reports on it in the evening news. I found the program interesting and did decide to use it myself, a simple reason why - I didn't have the personal time to do the paperwork myself. I knew about it and certainly knew the bottom line cost but it's my available time for such things that comes with a premium. Nothing more.

techgirl Dec 26, 2001 4:55 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Randy Petersen:
Let's make sure you understand that I don't endorse MileSpy in a way a few posters on this thread seem to think. I found it to be interesting and something for the masses and we reported on it in MilesLink - a week after we reported the same story for free use of the information. Because we tell you about what's going on out there does not mean we "endorse it." I don't think than Dan Rather feels he "endorses" the war in Afganistan when he reports on it in the evening news. I found the program interesting and did decide to use it myself, a simple reason why - I didn't have the personal time to do the paperwork myself. I knew about it and certainly knew the bottom line cost but it's my available time for such things that comes with a premium. Nothing more.</font>
Randy -

This text pulled directly from milespy.com may explain why it has been stated that you "endorse" this site.


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"> Our strategy for low-cost air travel is:

In accordance with the rules of all the participating frequent flyer programs

Founded by recognized experts for their mileage program knowledge

Endorsed by frequent-flyer expert Randy Petersen of Inside Flyer magazine
</font>
If I were only going to the MILESPY website (which I suspect many people would be doing who were referred by the Ebay charity sale), I would take this that you had personally endorsed their undertakings.

I realize this was probably not your intent (to "endorse" their offering simply by mentioning it in MilesLink), but nonetheless I can see why some are confused.



PG Dec 26, 2001 5:18 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Randy Petersen:
Let's make sure you understand that I don't endorse MileSpy in a way a few posters on this thread seem to think. I found it to be interesting and something for the masses and we reported on it in MilesLink - a week after we reported the same story for free use of the information. Because we tell you about what's going on out there does not mean we "endorse it." I don't think than Dan Rather feels he "endorses" the war in Afganistan when he reports on it in the evening news. I found the program interesting and did decide to use it myself, a simple reason why - I didn't have the personal time to do the paperwork myself. I knew about it and certainly knew the bottom line cost but it's my available time for such things that comes with a premium. Nothing more.</font>
The pertinent portions of MilesLink quoted by wharvey are much more than "reporting". I don't know how describing MileSpy as the best offer of 2001 (which it isn't) and advising to "skip airline and other Web sites" can be construed in any other way than a wholehearted endorsement of MileSpy.

[This message has been edited by PG (edited 12-26-2001).]

Dorian Dec 26, 2001 5:39 pm

God I detest fence sitters. Endorse it, don't endorse it...pick one! Reminds me of politicians.

Dorian

Mvic Dec 26, 2001 5:56 pm

Tech girl, ebay charity sale had nothing to do with Milespy

[This message has been edited by Mvic (edited 12-29-2001).]

ALW Dec 27, 2001 9:52 am

PG, you're right about GoldRewards membership, I overlooked that.

andrew

cactuspete Dec 28, 2001 12:26 pm

So what does everyone think now - - did MileSpy's commercial appropriation of information shared in good faith on FlyerTalk lead to, or at least hasten, the early termination of the GoldPoints/ValueMags promotion, to the detriment of the FT community?

Eugene Dec 29, 2001 8:42 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by PG:
Contrary to what is mentioned in Mileslink, there is a better offer - which is to open a Radisson account and through them buy magazines from valuemag (and not skip the other Web sites as mentioned in mileslink). This works out to about 0.88 cents (and is even less if you use a coupon), easily beating the 1.5 cents offer from Milespy.</font>
IMHO, "direct" Valuemags purchase was not the best deal in 2001 either. Buying gift certificates (valid at 300+ merchants) from Hallmark.com (see http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum91/HTML/000154.html , many thanks to fscher for disccovering, testing and reporting this opportunity) generates FF miles at many airline programs of your choice (through GoldPoints) at the net rate of about 3,000 miles per $ (95 cents service charge for a $100 e-certificate)! You do have to prepay some of your shopping for some future period of time, but with such merchants as Target, JC Penney, Olive Garden, Red Lobster, etc., participating, you will spend money there anyway.


PG Dec 29, 2001 8:45 am

You mean 30 miles per $

fscher Dec 29, 2001 8:55 am

PG, he means 3000 miles for the 95 cent fee. The one hundred dollars spent is not counted since it was cash that would be layed out in the next month or two anyway - promotion or no promotion. With the magazine deal, most people were just "buying miles" and would not have been purchasing that many subscriptions (understatement here) if it were not for the promotion.

fireflyreaction Dec 29, 2001 10:31 am

ahh..how american-centric. the hallmark promo is almost completely useless (except for things like amazon) for anyone but someone living in the US. that disqualifies it as the best promo of the year IMO.

PG Dec 29, 2001 12:03 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by fireflyreaction:
ahh..how american-centric. the hallmark promo is almost completely useless (except for things like amazon) for anyone but someone living in the US. that disqualifies it as the best promo of the year IMO.</font>
I am still at a loss how MileSpy can offer miles to someone living outside the US, Canada, Mexico or Caribbean since the Radisson program is only valid for residents of those countries. I suspect that some rules are being broken.


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